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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
Blue I totally see where you're coming from, but you are making some extreme generalizations that are just digging you into a deeper hole.
To be fair, others on the opposite side of the argument are doing the same. Who needs trainers? Lots of people. Every single athlete, for instance.
You might know some good trainers, and there are many out there. I know some myself. But they are in the vast minority. We're talking like 1-2% of the overall population, if that.
Nobody said anything against curls or calf raises, both of which are extremely useful exercises. If that's all you do, that's another issue.
Yes, most people who get trainers just want to look good naked. THat's all there is to it. Nobody said anything about having to get "max squats and deads". But most good trainers will take their clients who want to look good naked, and have them do... squats and deads! But what do I see every day? Curls, curls, more curls. Maybe some lat pulldowns and leg extensions. I'm sure most will concur.
Again, another vast generalization that is totally wrong. Even in this very forum we all train differently.
That's what makes it an engaging place for discussion (when the usual suspects aren't being useless trolls, that is).
And this is the biggest misconception you have of all. Some people here are into that, but I'd say they are in the minority.
The point people raised about trainers is that generally (98-99%) they are only out there to make a buck, getting people to do stupid training techniques. Whether or not their clients have similar goals is beside the point. I see some trainer showing their obese client how to do circuits on all the ab machines, they are yet another example of shitty trainers we all see too much.
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my extreme generalizations are to make a point, and to answer to your generalizations.. 1-2 %? If you don't call that extreme generalization, I don't know what is. In every profession there are guys who just kick back and get through the day without caring. Doctors, dentists etc.. they get the job done at the minimum and "hate" their job. Come to my personal training studio where there are trainers that have been in the industry for minumum 5-10 years, and tell me that 98% of those guys are horrible. You are basing your perception on the same few trainers you see at community centres and fitness world. It is like basing your perception of Vancouver as whole from the community in East Van or, to be extreme again, East Side Downtown. You have only seen the guys that just got their certification and or just have their weight trainers certification...
I agree with you that there are horrible trainers, and the worst I have seen are at Fitness World. There are a couple of trainers at my trainer only studio that I would never refer anyone to, but to say 98 or even 50% of the them, is insane.
And to beat a dead horse regarding squats and deads... Not everyone can perform those exercises safely. So my reply would be, NO, not everyone should do it because they are great exercises. I do them myself, but it doesn't mean everyone I train should do them just because I can and I do.
The trainer's that should be looked at as "bad" should be the ones that have generic workout programs for client a, b, c, and d. I have clients who will never be able to step on a treadmill due to predisposed issues, some that will overcome previous knee and back issues to do anything I throw at them, and also ones that just want to live pain free from lower back degeneration and or previous neck injuries.