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Originally Posted by Ronin
This is where you're wrong. Sport is as valid a thing to follow as religion. There are values in sport even if we don't see them all the time. Loyalty, brotherhood, hard work.
Not something you'd expect from the idiots carrying guns into locker rooms or raping people in the NBA and NFL but at the same time, there are bad apples everywhere. Jihadists don't represent Islam even though that's what most people think of just like Gilbert Arenas and Plaxico Burris don't represent all professional athletes.
What is there to be gained from all this? You obviously didn't see the hundreds or even thousands who volunteered their own time to clean up the city after a few assholes destroyed it. Many were wearing Canucks jerseys. If we felt no pride in our team and our city...if it was just a game...who would bother? Who would care about what our team or Vancouver was associated with? No, instead people were inspired. People thought about how much they loved Vancouver and the Canucks and pitched in to prove we're not all douchebags here.
Sure, the Canucks are entertainment for entertainment's sake but this is cultural value. It's a part of our city. People are always so quick to dismiss entertainment as something that doesn't matter. Would you rather be bored?
I could go on about how the millions they make are a result of supply and demand and that if you are against professional athletes making the money they do, you are a communist or a hippie but it's been argued before.
I've always thought that following a sports team is as valid a thing to do as following a religion. ...except that while people may get into a bar fight or Mike Milbury may hit a man with his own shoe, no one is starting any wars, commiting any genocide or anything else. Sports fans will trash talk each other but most won't go any further.
There are more positives that come out of sports than negatives.
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.............. wait a second, how the fuck did this turn against me?
I think all you read from my post was " bandwagoner" and "sport has no value".
I DID NOT say professional sports have no positive effects or useless. I SAID if you think about it, professional sport at the end of the day it's just a GAME, it's entertainment.
Yes, it inspires people to "reach for their dreams", and "push harder! stronger", but at the end of the day it's just a game.
The intrinsic value of professional sports is measured by how much society cares about it.
Does the canucks have a positive effect on the city of vancouver? YES
i DID NOT say sport doesn't motivate or inspire, DO NOT put words in my mouth.
what I SAID in my post was i had nothing but RESPECT for our hockey players, who fully dedicated their bodies and minds for their profession.
what I SAID in my post was our players played through pains and injuries that the common folks like you and I would be missing work or getting WCB for.
What I SAID in my post was that the riot that happened HAS ruined our team image and our city image to the world, and that CIVIL fans and vancouverites need to REPRESENT our city and our team in positive light, how it SHOULD have been instead of having rioters ruining our names.
what i SAID was a lost is a lost, and it was a heartbreaker. And it hurts to not see our team win. But when we win one we will finally get over it.
THATS ALL.
i do not know what you were reading to think i am shitting on our team or our city or in sport in general, so let me rephrase what i said:
-watching the olympics got me interested in hockey again,
-the passion and vibe from this city during this run got me hooked into hockey.
-professional athletes aren't doctors, they aren't the farmers that produce our food, they aren't the soldiers that keep maintain peace; they are people that are really good at what they do, and what they do is entertainment in the form of sport. But their dedication and professionalism earn my respect and how they played the game, WHICH IS AN ENTERTAINMENT, have gotten my attitude and respect.
-riot happened, a lot of the rioters were in canucks gear, not a good image to represent vancouver to the world. It will take time to repair, so those of us that can enjoy and celebrate or mourn in civil and relatively peaceful manner should represent our city and our team well to erase the negative rioting images that are broadcasted all over the world.
So i basically got shit on by you after i said i aint hopping off the wagon because after watching this year's hockey i am interested by it?
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