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you can only call so much, some banks are a bitch and say sorry, i can't tell you cause it's confidential.
Tell the guy there is a deal, have him sign the release ICBC form transfer of title, but insist you want him to call the bank WITH you on the phone, have it on paper that it's released before you give him all the money.
I did that. I took the dude at the bank, paid the BANK directly, the guy covered the rest of the lien. by then i already had the paperwork all signed so it was good to go.
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