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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
Ah, so it must be pure coincidence that only islamic countries do honor killing then.
Of course if you go 'by the letter of the book' it can be interpreted that honor killing = murder. But somehow, people are not interpreting it that way for some reason. For some reason, even though the Qur'an "celebrates the inherent dignity bestowed by God upon all human beings regardless of race, ethnicity, gender or religion", women have less rights than animals in these countries, and people from other ethnicities become slaves, and of course you have people going to jail for being homosexual.
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to answer briefly, honor killings don't just happen in islamic countries, India has a very big problem with it, and I'm sure other countries out there as well I'm not aware of.
And the second point you nailed it, it's all in the interpretation of the words... it
is very simple, you just follow the book by the word like you said, but instead the nature of man is to bend anything and everything they can in their favour to benefit them which obviously results in horrible practices such as this.
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Originally Posted by zulutango
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no, but this specific thread was specifically about a specific region, specifically speaking Afghanistan... I could have easily said it happens in Saudi Arabia as well and other middle eastern countries, but this thread was specific to the Afghan region, so I tried to be as specific as possible.....
has my answer been specific enough for you ? I thought cops liked it when people answered questions straight up....
if you got some kind of bias (pretty obvious you do), I'm sorry I can't help you with that
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Originally Posted by tiger_handheld
Don't really know much about Islam, but if suicide and murder are 2/3 worst sins - whats the deal on "suicide bombers" and "jihad" in the name of their god? Is Jihad a sham?
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Well the Western understanding of Jihad is a sham, the word itself isn't even what most people think it is.... everyone thinks it means holy war, but it literally means struggle against oppression.... meaning if I come into your land to take what's yours, you have the right to defend yourself like you would here.... Jihad means precisely that, and nothing else...
so off course by the fact that the USA literally occupies certain countries (no other way to put it) like Iraq, Afghanistan... it would be very easy for a citizen living there to involve the principle of Jihad, I personally understand it...
if America sent troops to Vancouver saying they're waging war on Stephen Harper, well personally I would be happy, he's a douche and he deserves it just for that haircut alone... but as a Canadian citizen when these American troops are killing my innocent fellow Canadians, I'd fckin wage Jihad on their ass too... they're in my house no matter how they're sugarcoating their words
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Originally Posted by The7even
You should elaborate on the non belief in God.. seeing as how those that have never heard of Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc, would be rewarded the same way a Muslim would be, so long as they were a good person.
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Well the thing is most people don't know actually I don't think anybody really knows unless you've read the Qu'ran yourself fully, My memory escapes me but from recollection it is said that by the end of time something like 72 sects of Christianity, 72 of Judaism and 73 of Islam will be prevalent, but only 1 sect from each side will make it to heaven, there was other factors in this as well but these are the main points I remember....
I don't know of any other mainstream religion that says as long as you yourself find a direct path to the true God, (meaning like you said being a good person and at least believing in a God) you will find entry to heaven....
And my last general point to anybody wondering, need to be aware of the fact that Islam was brought to a region that has been following tribal customs for a thousand, two, 3 thousand years before that.... tough to change thousand year old ways...
If you guys want to look at a really good example of what Islam can really mean to a society, do NOT look at these sand naggers in the Arabian peninsula and close by in these Central Asian regions, their ruling elite is mostly despised by their own people anyway, that's why you're seeing all the uprisings happening now... and out of 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide, that region only constitute of literally no more than 300 million... think about that number for a second... I mean there are more Muslims throughout the regions of China and nearby than there are in all of Arabia
take a good look at Malaysia, 50 years ago that country was nothing but jungle and swamp.... and now it houses some of the highest high rises in the world, some of the best schools, it is as modern and as peaceful as any country on this planet... Offcourse nobody is perfect, but in my opinion that is the best example of what Islam can do for your society when followed properly