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Originally Posted by b0unce. [?]
more like if the organization took the same approach as most teams in developing their young guys. give the kids a stronger chance to succeed. assuming the game isn't on the line/crucial situation, play the kids more. not only give them more minutes, but give them some quality line mates to experiment with chemistry.
coho's class has gotten a solid 3 or 4 seasons in the nhl already while coho is still getting shit minutes and benched often. but he uses all the ice time he gets and proves management he deserves a spot. 
that discussion still comes up when people are like "man, we should have held onto grabner. canucks are stupid to give him up like that." 
personally i don't think grabner would have turned into a potential calder trophy winner if he was wearing a vancouver jersey. we barely gave him any minutes and threw him on the 4th line. i'm glad he's doing well over in ny.
feels like the canucks are notorious for not giving the younger guys a chance early on and prefer to ride out the vets/established players as long as they can. iirc schneids was drafted 2004. it wasn't until 2010-2011 that he played his full season. i mean schneids lived up to the expectation and arguably is the better than luongo in every aspect. over the same span or less GP, his stats are better. he still had to work hard to get where he is right now. realistically i don't us being able to persuade him to stay much longer. without listing all the points, the main reason that stands out: he wants to be a starter somewhere. which is more important than earning a big, high salary contract as a back up for any team.
wow i definitely went way off topic lol |
It's not a fault to have one of the deepest teams in the league. Honestly who knew Grabner would explode out the gates like that, it did seem like he had potential but he wasn't exactly the "Bure of the AHL" when he was playing on the Moose either. At the time the trade was good (I still think it's not bad), we needed defensive depth and Keith Ballard was one of Florida's most consistent and healthy d-men. At least we didn't give him up for nothing a la waivers which would have REALLY sucked. Hodgson is awesome but he's playing behind Henrik Sedin and Ryan Kesler, do you expect either of them to slide down to fit a developing rookie in a cup-contending year?... Hodgson is not really a defensive force to be solid on the checking line either. I think we've done a fine job so far considering the circumstances and he has adjusted well. It's too bad Malhotra's eye injury has affected him this much this year ... kinda sucks but at the same time you gotta feel for him... I mean his eyeball almost exploded!
Schneider is really damn good but he's also playing behind one of the top goaltenders in the world, what do you expect management to do? Ship out Luongo so Schnieder can be the #1?... then who would back him up? We would be back in the rotating door cycle with the likes of a not-ready Lack, or picking up floaters like Flaherty, Hedberg, Lebarbera? Therefore costing us a legitimate chance at the cup in the coming years.
I think we are following the Detroit Red Wings model of prospect building ... when you are constantly in contention for the cup, you don't throw in kids into the big leagues, you develop them in the AHL program. We are not the Oilers who ONLY have young kids to work with, albiet they are exciting and skilled, but they will not win the cup, not even close, possibly not even make the playoffs, but they are developing, for the future, possibly at least 3 years more.