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Originally Posted by Blah_Teggie
You think it's "pretty impressive he put up 60 points playing in Columbus". Well we totally disagree on that one. I think it's pretty sad. 60 points from a first overall pick? Lets look at the 1st overalls around him. As mentioned, we have Kovalchuk one year before Nash, Ovechkin, two years after Nash and Crosby, 3 years after Nash. 60 points would be career lows for those guys. I know, we can't compare Nash to those guys cuz he doesn't have the support those guys have. But this year, he's had Carter for a bit and it's turning out to be the worst years of both their careers. A great player will make others around him better like Iginla.
As for guys wanting to play in Columbus, I think the only players that wanna play there are guys that absolutely don't care bout winning games or even making the playoffs and are just there to collect a paycheque. Other than that, I don't see why any NHLer would wanna play for a club who's made the post season once in 12 years.
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Completely agree with you on the Nash/Kovalchuk comparison. In his final years in Atlanta, Kovalchuk went on long stretches where he was single-handedly carrying the Thrashers on his back and making shit players look good.
In 08-09 - Bryan Little (31 goals -- by far his career best to date) and Todd White (73 pts -- by far a career best, vanished into obscurity after Kovalchuk left).
09-10 -- Nik Antropov, career best 67 pts (Been on a 40-45 pt/yr pace since). Afinogenov, career best 61 pts (had 20 in the previous season).
Vermette, Huselius, Umberger and Voracek aren't great players but they're not that inferior compared to the likes of Nik Antropov, Little, White and Afinogenov, might even be able to argue that they were marginally better.
John Tavares basically only has Moulson and Streit, he has 55 pts compared to Nash's 39 in the same number of games so far. If Tavares was in Columbus and Nash on Long Island, I'd have to say, IMO, Tavares will still be able to be a pt/game player while Nash still wouldn't have much more than the 39 he has now.