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Originally Posted by rageguy
I recently hired a person who has A+ and Network+, along with 3 or so years of work experience. He didn't have a Computer Science degree but that was fine. In the end, he showed me he is hard working and fast learning.
1 person was hired. 50 or so people applied within a week. If I see someone who has certs and some work experience, it tells me this person is professional and knows some basic tech knowledge. It'll save me hours on training.
In short: certs matter. The place I work at is certainly decent, and definitely not minimum wage.
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Can I ask how much the wage you guys start at is?
While I agree that certs may look good to the general HR manager,
but any person who actually knows whats going on in the I.T field, know that certs are useless, as all of them can be cheated on.
I've noticed my current employer and some of my past employers are now moving away from certs for this reason, and are gearing more towards experience, and shadow training.
If any manager tells me I need a cert, I will pass it in 2 days. Certs are irrelevant.
I remember my manager asking me a question about active directory, and I said I didnt know, he said didnt you get the certification? I said ya, but I only know the answer to 50 specific questions. He died a little inside that day, I chuckled.
again im not talking about the future shop or london drugs, NCIX or whatever IT employee.
Knowing what I know now, if I was an employer, If I had 2 resume's, one guy with 3 years experience and no certs, while the other guy had 20 certs and no experience.
I wouldnt even interview the second guy, he's just a memorization jockey.
I used to work with a guy who has aspergers at this old company, he literally had 30 fuckin certs, you name it, he had it, just a brilliant mind when it came to reading and memorizing. yet the guy didnt even know how to change the damn refresh rate, and the company didnt know what to do with him, The certs look good on paper to prospective contracts, but they would constantly kick him off the contracts because he was useless, that company now requires no certs for entry.
Anyway, thats what i've come to learn since I started in this field, sharing what I've experienced.
Also, one last point,
Microsoft also has seen this coming where certs are less and less valued, they are now converting their certs to live testing. Where you actually connect to a VM at microsoft, and they tell you what to do, and you hafto show the steps in doing it, live.
I had to do one of these, and it was easy enough to find exactly what they wanted you to do, I dug a little more and even found video's of each and every step and exactly how to do them. I passed the test with only a week of memorizing the steps. Certs are bogus, even live testing is still cheatable, the internet is a powerfull sharing tool.