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Old 02-24-2012, 11:17 AM   #17975
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Why so serious man? Don't need to call out my hockey knowledge. I've been watching and playing for long enough. I see what you're saying, but I have to respectfully disagree in this case.

Burrows fake to backhand top corner is as close as things come to a sure thing. Burrows has tried his 'repertoire' of other moves enough for me to have significantly less confidence in those other moves, I'd rather him try his deke to backhand everytime even though everyone else may have the book on it. I'm obviously not going to guarantee he will put it in every single time, but odds are if he executes that move appropriately, he will put it in way more often than not.

And that is the key, that the move gets executed properly. The times that move has been stopped was when he put the forehand deke on too early and gave goalies time to move over and stop the backhand, or he fakes the forehand too late and puts himself too tight to lift the backhand over the goalie. The speed he is coming in on net is vital as well, too slow and goalie has more time to move, too fast and he loses the handle on the puck a bit or puts himself too deep to get a good angle on backhand.

Breaking down last night's shot in particular, if you watch it again, you'll see that Burrows faked the forehand shot, but Howard didn't bite on it at all. Goalies have to respect that fake forehand shot even if they know he won't shoot it. Because of the speed Burrows came in at, the ONLY thing Howard could do was kick out his left leg, extend and flop like Luongo does so often and hope that Burrows can't get it up and hits the extended pad or lowered trapper.

I see what Aznightmare is saying about the spinorama as well, and I agree. If executed properly, it is very difficult to stop because the goalie has to respect the shooter's move to forehand even if they know the spinorama is impending. If the spinorama gets backhanded up high like how Bertuzzi often does it, I would be willing to put a few bucks on the table to say that it too cannot be stopped.
I agree with UFO and Azn.

The goalie has to respect the shot. If goalie cheats to plays the deke or spin then shooter has great chance shooting. If not than the fake has high chance of success. Best if the shooter is coming in with speed and has a decent reach. Just because a goalie knows the move doesn't mean he can stop it. I'll take 50% any day. And if he didn't try his other less successful methods, % would prob be higher.
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