[Ulic Qel-Droma]

Originally Posted by mx703

Just curious on a couple things...

how much does it cost?
how much do you take?
how do you take it? (smoke it?)

I've made aspirin before in a chem lab and that was under guidance with all the necessary equipment and our prof still told us NOT to take any of it because it still wasn't safe.
I can't see myself making and taking a drug that could fcuk me up pretty good.

it costs quite a bit, 25-30 bux a hit.
the chemical is finicky, you might lose a lot or all of it in the process of figuring out how to take it properly. it isnt for people who are gonna cheap out of cant blow through a few hits to figure it out.
you vaporize it and inhale, through a meth pipe. if you have a volcano with an extra head dedicated for DMT (cuz the taste and smell will never wash out), then use that, that's the best method.
ive also heard of people using weed ash, putting some in a bowl of a bong, then putting the dmt ontop then putting more ash ontop (you cant use direct flame on it, it will destroy the DMT). you have to vaporize it.
like i said, it's a finicky drug.

Originally Posted by flip28

its very life changing. like ulic said, you will have so many questions about things, you might have an answer for most things but completely wont make sense to someone if you explain it. i didnt experience what ulic have about the after life thing i experienced memories that i never had including a grandfather i never saw. but then again, its different for people? ulic saw abstract, i saw molecules and atoms while my eyes were open and saw shit i wish i could understand while my eyes were shut.

for people the pmed me about the source, make them.. and instead of using chemicals, use lemon juice as an acid, and zippo fuel to extract the alkaloids. it takes a while to do though, thats prolly why no one sells it.
take 5mg smoking it is nasty... try to mix it with weed if you do. it hit me in literally 20 seconds and lasted 23 mins on the dot.


lastly, dont take my word on what you will see were not all the same.
example, my biggest wtf is there was a recipe/ blue print of something that im still trying to understand.

yeah i've read a lot about making it myself, but in the end i decided not to. i don't have a dedicated lab, the chemicals i'd have to play with could be dangerous and the fumes could be dangerous too. if i had a basement or whatever, i might try, but meh. it's not something you do habitually. hell, i only did it once and that was... fuckin 2 years ago... and it felt like yesterday.

it's fucking intense. so intense you probably wont wanna ever do it again. well you're curious, but it's not something you need to do. probably take a lifetime to reflect on it. i said i'd do it once a year, but i still feel that i've not fully reflected on my trip.

i'd find it almost offensive if someone did it just to trip out and get high, that person would also probably be a total whack job. i dont know anyone that could do that. it's NOT "fun". lol.


flip28 you only did 5mg?

i did research and asked people that tried, and i found 25mg to be a low trip, not a "break through" (where you pass out and enter "that" world).

i actually did it twice. 25mg, i was fully conscious and i saw beautiful patterns and an entity visited me (the same one that visited me in my full trip), lasted me a few minutes and kinda faded away.

but i wanted to break out. so 55-60mg was the true hit to totally pass out and go the full blown trip.

55mg hit me... real fast. i wouldn't have even taken the 3rd toke if someone didnt command me to. it hits you very fast, and it's very "strange" and uncomfortable. I woke up and the first thing someone said to me was "you were out for 3minutes and 44 seconds".

lol. 3minutes? thats it? it felt like a lifetime. an eternity. time didn't matter there. where you go is eternal. i could have woken up in a hospital, and a nurse could have been beside me and told me i was passed out in a coma for 10 years. my friend could have told me i was passed out for 3 days. or 3 seconds. i woulda believed any of those answers. time has no relevance where you go.

after you wake up, visualization wise, it's like a super duper heavy LSD trip, except it fades really fast, within a minute or two. then you feel very connected and euphoric (not like MDMA, but like natural euphoria, feeling of true happiness, satisfaction, no wants, no needs etc). and that feeling of satisfaction lingers and tapers off after about 50-60minutes and you're completely down.

i can totally say it's not for everyone. if you're very locked into reality, and unwilling to let go, or fear death, i can totally see this scarring someone psychologically for life.

it was the most terrifying, most horrifying, most intense thing, i have ever experienced, and i doubt i will ever experience anything close to this. not even if i was offered a ride in the space shuttle to and back from the space station. the realisation that you're dying, and then dead is near unbearable. and that you can't do jack shit about it, the only thing you can do is fight it for all of eternity, or accept it and let go. i don't know how many people can actually accept it.

i prepared for 6.5 months, i meditated every night and told myself that i had to accept death and embrace it. because i knew i'd confront it when i did DMT. when the day came, i was still horrified, but i guess somewhere in the back of my mind, i let go, the realisation that nothing in this life really matters once you're on the path to death anyway clicked in and that helped a lot.

immediately when i realised this, i entered the "alien" world, and it was the most blissful, divine place i have ever seen. it was like a higher beings realm, and my mere human soul or whatever was allowed to take a peak for a bit.

Originally Posted by Alpha v2

lol so i guess "you can solve the puzzle of life" comes out of something then

friend might have been onto something

no, DMT is very alien. it kinda steers you in the right direction, but then opens up the doors to a katrillion new questions. kinda like "the more you know, the less you know".

if you want to solve puzzles and meaning of life and that stuff, LSD is the complete opposite of DMT. it's very personal and not alien at all.
LSD=very personal.
DMT=completely alien.



needless to say, it was the biggest life changing thing in my life and it all happened within 4 minutes.

I am now buddhist and for all of you that have followed my posts for years, know i was super anti religious. i was very conforming to science and "if it i cant see it, it dont exist" or "if it cant be proven, its not real". but i'm totally not like that anymore.

it's one thing to have someone tell you about it, and it's another thing to actually be there.

to this day, i can tell you, i will swear on my grave, i was there. wherever that was. i WAS there.
not my physical body, but my soul, or consciousness or whatever. something i can't explain.


if you guys are serious about it read up on all these threads:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_info1.shtml

http://miqel.com/entheogens/dmt_first_time_report.html

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_DMT.shtml

for the semi lazy (the lazy can forget about this drug, it aint for you)
download DMT the spirit molecule documentary (piratebay it or something)
and if you're more inclined and want the juicy details, read the actual book, it's written by a doctor.

LOL, i can say this, it will change you. some people dont wanna change, so consider that first.
not only will it change you, consider the fact that when you change, others will perceive you differently.
you could lose friends. or girlfriends, or whatever.

i've had two friends lose friends/gf's

one took DMT and changed a lot, he ditched almost all his friends, because he viewed them as living a life that would put them in a lower state of life (Buddhist view) and pursued a buddhist life, and has become completely vegan and tried to give up on women (sex) but lol, he says that one is super hard.
another took DMT then LSD a few months later, and changed so much, his gf thought he was a totally different person, and dumped him.

too many people ask me retarded questions like
"can you party on it?"
"what's sex on it like?"
all i can do is look at the ground and shake my head. totally asking the wrong questions. seeking a cheap thrill, or a quick path to pleasure, or something, if that's what you're seeking, just do some PCP, smoke some crystal meth or go jerk off. DMT is totally not like that. I don't even bother talking to those types any more.

i had a friend who really wanted to try, and convinced me that he was actually wanting to try for more than just a cheap thrill. needless to say, he had a big party to go to that night, and after he did it, he didnt go to that party, and he talked to me for a few hours, then went home, and disappeared for a while, and just focused on work and "what had to be done". he also went from what i consider borderline alcoholic, to almost not drinking ever. he'll drink at someone's birthday, that's about it.

sorry to thread jack this weed thread. last time there was a thread dedicated to DMT and other psychedelics it got deleted really fast.