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Are you wearing them on your waist, or are you sagging them a bit? It sounds like with the fold you are sagging them a bit? Also were you able to button to the top button with the 38's? When buying Nudies or APCs, I will buy a size where I cannot button up the top. They will stretch in about a week where they will start fitting you.
With that being said, I find APC's and Nudies catering more to the slimmer guys since they usually don't have much room in the thighs (at least for me lol). I have fat thighs myself and I would suggest looking at Samurai 5000VX cut, or some of the Big Johns. If you're looking for a tapered look, go ahead and just get them tapered. Make your jeans fit you
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