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Thanks for your replies guys. Probably gonna take your advice and get a shell to layer.
I think I'm going to settle for a 10k/10k, lightly insulated jacket. Can't seem to find 20k waterproof. Most Burton jackets max out at 15k and then next level is gore-tex. My GF is deciding to go the same route as me because she's scared that it might be too hot with a down jacket.
I'm probably gonna look for a base layer too if I can find a good deal on it online.
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