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Originally Posted by Rich Sandor
Nothing much to say that hasn't already been said.
My Cole's Notes Summary of this thread:
-Younger and Bleeding-Heart demographic thinks the deaths are a tragedy and that Lion's Gate bridge is unsafe.
-Older and Cynical demographic thinks the driver is solely to blame for the accident.
I have to agree with the older and more cynical demographic. I crossed the LGB for 15 years, 2-4 times daily. I know it as intimately as anyone can know it. In my younger years I have done stupid stuff on it. I know what you can and can't get away with. Every single accident that occurs on this bridge is down to driver error in some regard. Either due to inexperience, or very poor judgement. There was one accident where a tree fell on a car, and that's the only case where it was really unavoidable. This bridge is narrower than most, but if you are careful, it is perfectly safe. If you disagree, you need to maybe take some advanced collision avoidance courses to improve your driving skills - which, by the way, is what I teach for a living.
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There are only a
rare few people that said anything about the LGB being unsafe and that being the cause of the accident. most people, even friends of the deceased, were simply making remarks like "RIP", "You will be missed", etc. (In typical RS fashion, whether they knew the deceased or not)
The thread turning to shit was a result of people arguing over the appropriateness of talking about who's to blame and making negative comments towards the deceased in a thread that evidently became an 'in memoriam' thread with many grieving members.
The majority of people upset at the negative remarks toward the driver, are not upset because they are condoning speeding/driving recklessly. There is no need to impose safe driving techniques on the community, the people involved made a very clear example of what not to do and there is no need to add more fuel to the blatantly obvious fire. If they were going at or very close to the speed limit this wouldn't have happened and even if it did not at such a deadly proportion.
In case you haven't noticed I am of the latter group that thinks the driver is solely to blame, but I don't feel the need to clarify how stupid the actions of the deceased were. IMO the deceased weren't exactly salt of the earth either, but any properly socialized person would recognize the direction of the thread and who their comments are in the presence of, and that it's not the right time and place to be calling them "idiots". I agree with one comment that one action does not define you as a person, while it might've been an idiot move there is no need to condemn you as an idiot in what became an 'in memoriam' thread.
If it was your loved one's funeral you would not take kindly if someone in attendance were reminding everyone about every misdeed of your son/brother/cousin/best friend/etc. or calling them idiots/lowlifes/assholes/etc.