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Old 04-19-2013, 02:48 PM   #138
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Originally Posted by StylinRed View Post
Uh... improving education and improving the standards of the poor and lower income isn't only the right thing to do but it helps the entire province as a result social benefits is what makes canada canada if you want to ignore that like the Liberals have been doing for well over a decade you're not Canadian imo
you can pretend to be concerned and act like the Liberals "we'll get around to it" but never do but that just makes you an asshole
For the purposes of this thread, can we all really try to leave the personal attacks out of it? I envisioned having a thread where we could talk about the election, and the lies..sorry, promises beforehand and compile all these little newsbite articles into one area. Maybe it convinces a person of a different party, maybe it doesn't. Maybe one person gets inspired to actually vote, who knows.

But there is a clear difference between attacking the agenda, and attacking the person.

There are always people that disagree with you. My god, there was people cheering at the states at the idea of a person without medical insurance dying as a result. If the person is so diametrically opposed to what you believe in...arguing on the internet isn't going to help change their minds

That said, I think there are things to be gained from having different parties, and different people in power for different times. There is no denying that the liberals are not a party of the lower tiered income people. Look at the ridings that traditionally go one party or another, compared to average earnings in said riding to have that clearly illustrated.

So there is benefit to having a party like the NDP come in and think about a different group of people that may have been marginalized in previous adminstrations: Great68 speaks about the island in need of capital projects. Others speak of lower income people needing a break.

I look at: show me the money.

I'm sorry, but I still have yet to get over the point they glossed over of saying, "the liberals actual deficit is 790 million in the hole(without selling land to make it balanced) so we're going to use that as a benchmark and just not go any worse.

That is fucking huge. And as Graeme said, all those fine union folk are looking for a pay bump too.

Where my mind differs is how much that should be, and when. I don't believe in this race to the top in union wages.
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