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Gridlock · 05-15-2013, 07:46 AM

So, as much as I would have loved to be in here commenting on all this shit last night, I had signed up to work the election, got home at 9 and was so frigging tired, so I'm going to do a sum up post on all this great stuff that was talked about last night.

Liberal Win

ZOMG! So, as soon as the polls closed, I dived into my box and started counting so I could go home before frigging midnight. Didn't check my fb or anything. So I get home, look at the tv and blamo! red wave!

So I think I've been kind of consistent on my thoughts on this election. I'm not crazy about the liberals, and have some legit fears for the next 4 years. I think everyone needs a good resting period to get some good creative juices flowing again.

I really don't like Clark.

BUT...I REALLY was not liking what Adrian Dix was saying. Don't get me wrong, I think he had a wonderful message, and all the things he wanted to throw money at were great things...but at the end of the day, he wasn't going to achieve the revenue, but was more than capable of achieving the costs.

And that is a problem that the NDP didn't realize they had, and never countered.

Campaign

The message that I kept getting from the NDP(and remember, I read a LOT of what they were putting out there) is 'positive campaign' and they kept talking about the liberals 'negative campaign'

I'm sorry, but if THAT is a negative campaign, then you need to put on your big boy pants if you want the big office there friend.

In 2000 republican primaries, the Bush camp was making robocalls informing people that John McCain had an illegitimate black child. THAT is negative campaigning bro. The child was adopted from Haiti ps.

In my world, its not a negative campaign to say, "this is something the other party did...we don't" You don't like the memo that comes up from the late 90's? THEN DON'T WRITE MEMOS LIKE THAT IN THE LATE 90'S!

You want to run a "positive" campaign? That's your choice. You have 12 years of fucking blunders to choose from, and I don't see ONE single "hey! remember that HST fuck up?" ad running on tv? If I was running the NDP campaign, I would be saying the letters H-S-T so much, my mouth would hurt from forming the words.

That's not negative...that's campaigning. I'm not asking you to say Christy Clark is a bad mother or something. Negative is bringing up, "Christy Clark can't even make her marriage work, and you expect her to run a province?"

So the NDP failed miserably on that front. Miserably.

Anton

Oh Susan Anton.

She kind of reminded me of that crazy aunt that doesn't always take her meds when she was running for mayor. Gets a little dopey in the afternoon, y'kno?

I do remember her in the mayoral campaign answering one question well, that grabbed my attention.

The question was, "Mayor Happy Pants wants to eliminate homelessness in 4 years. What's your plan?"

Paraphrasing, "well, he can't, and won't be able to. And beyond that, my plan is to do nothing, because its not my job as mayor. It's clearly a provincial responsibility and I'll apply pressure for the provincial representatives to do what they need to do. Being mayor doesn't mean taking on whatever you want(and paying for it) its roads and infrastructure. "

Of course, people hated her for it, but I appreciated the honesty. It ain't my job, so while Mayor Moonbeam wants to solve glamour issues, I'm going to do my job.

Other than that, she has come across as kind of daft.

summary

What a great election! I'd say the same thing if the NDP had won, just purely on the importance of the night...but fantastic.

05-15-2013, 07:46 AM	#475
Gridlock Banned By Establishment Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New West Posts: 3,997 Thanked 2,982 Times in 1,135 Posts Failed 284 Times in 109 Posts	So, as much as I would have loved to be in here commenting on all this shit last night, I had signed up to work the election, got home at 9 and was so frigging tired, so I'm going to do a sum up post on all this great stuff that was talked about last night. Liberal Win ZOMG! So, as soon as the polls closed, I dived into my box and started counting so I could go home before frigging midnight. Didn't check my fb or anything. So I get home, look at the tv and blamo! red wave! So I think I've been kind of consistent on my thoughts on this election. I'm not crazy about the liberals, and have some legit fears for the next 4 years. I think everyone needs a good resting period to get some good creative juices flowing again. I really don't like Clark. BUT...I REALLY was not liking what Adrian Dix was saying. Don't get me wrong, I think he had a wonderful message, and all the things he wanted to throw money at were great things...but at the end of the day, he wasn't going to achieve the revenue, but was more than capable of achieving the costs. And that is a problem that the NDP didn't realize they had, and never countered. Campaign The message that I kept getting from the NDP(and remember, I read a LOT of what they were putting out there) is 'positive campaign' and they kept talking about the liberals 'negative campaign' I'm sorry, but if THAT is a negative campaign, then you need to put on your big boy pants if you want the big office there friend. In 2000 republican primaries, the Bush camp was making robocalls informing people that John McCain had an illegitimate black child. THAT is negative campaigning bro. The child was adopted from Haiti ps. In my world, its not a negative campaign to say, "this is something the other party did...we don't" You don't like the memo that comes up from the late 90's? THEN DON'T WRITE MEMOS LIKE THAT IN THE LATE 90'S! You want to run a "positive" campaign? That's your choice. You have 12 years of fucking blunders to choose from, and I don't see ONE single "hey! remember that HST fuck up?" ad running on tv? If I was running the NDP campaign, I would be saying the letters H-S-T so much, my mouth would hurt from forming the words. That's not negative...that's campaigning. I'm not asking you to say Christy Clark is a bad mother or something. Negative is bringing up, "Christy Clark can't even make her marriage work, and you expect her to run a province?" So the NDP failed miserably on that front. Miserably. Anton Oh Susan Anton. She kind of reminded me of that crazy aunt that doesn't always take her meds when she was running for mayor. Gets a little dopey in the afternoon, y'kno? I do remember her in the mayoral campaign answering one question well, that grabbed my attention. The question was, "Mayor Happy Pants wants to eliminate homelessness in 4 years. What's your plan?" Paraphrasing, "well, he can't, and won't be able to. And beyond that, my plan is to do nothing, because its not my job as mayor. It's clearly a provincial responsibility and I'll apply pressure for the provincial representatives to do what they need to do. Being mayor doesn't mean taking on whatever you want(and paying for it) its roads and infrastructure. " Of course, people hated her for it, but I appreciated the honesty. It ain't my job, so while Mayor Moonbeam wants to solve glamour issues, I'm going to do my job. Other than that, she has come across as kind of daft. summary What a great election! I'd say the same thing if the NDP had won, just purely on the importance of the night...but fantastic.