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Old 06-04-2013, 04:39 AM   #2989
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero View Post
in this case of theft over $5000, it is an indictable offense...may be with other victims going forward to the authorities something can stick.


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Ummm it isn't Theft, it is Fraud. And it isn't over 5000.

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Originally Posted by dlo View Post
sounds like their recent charge can include fraud (fake credit card + fake ids?) fraud under/over 5000, theft under/over 5000 also
It sounds like it would only be Fraud Under if the number of $5000 is accurate.

Fraud is probably one of the hardest offences to prove, because you ave to prove INTENT. How can prosecutors say for sure that they used the gift cards/credit cards KNOWING it was fake.

Again, nothing it going to happen, especially if they haven't had any previous convictions for Fraud.

All the cases of them scamming people would be easier dealt with in civil court than Criminal, as it is a lot harder to get a conviction under Crim court, than to win a battle in civil court.

Oh and another thing, because they purchased a bunch of different gift cards from different places, even if the total value of the gift cards they have were over 5000, the court may look at each card as a separate offence, so it may be multiple counts of fraud under... Each store would then have to cooperate with police forwarding charges against the couple (by attending court, and giving testimony).

Just because they got arrested, does not mean they are going to be charged and or convicted.

If they did possess fake ids etc, that should be an easy charge approval for uttering forged document/personation.

Oh, did I already mention that probably nothing is going to happen to them?

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