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Originally Posted by duy-
perhaps stupid is the wrong word
if I offered 800$ today for those 2 to do the same job on a TL today would they accept it?
are they as confident with their work?
do they feel it's morally alright to take that money?
if the answer is no then it definitely was a job they should have turned down
if yes then I kinda lose respect for them
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I'm sorry you feel this way and I do respect your opinion, in the end everyone is free to believe what they want. After this, if you offered me that much money to do the same thing if it came with months and months of asking problems and countless hours of research on things that had nothing to do with the job, no I would not take the money. Hell I wouldn't have taken the money in the first place had I known all the trouble it would bring and Eric feels the same (trouble isn't including this thread or anything to do about the work on the headlight). The headlight in the end came out okay, if I knew that we would have had to redo it again then no I would not have taken the money. I thought we could have done it at first try, but an accident happened with alcohol rub (stupid accident) and I did not foresee that. After redoing it, everything was fine. I am confident on a HID PnP install and a switchback install... Headlight, after having to reseal it his, I definitely need to do my own headlight a few more times before I can even say I'm comfortable with it anymore
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Originally Posted by Grim
I can't justify someone taking 800$ or any money when you have no experience whatsoever.
OP is stupid, but the guy who accepted the cash is a low life dick.
A met a guy and didn't know him very well and he asked me to paint his wheels... He offered money but I told him to just buy the supplies and a dinner and ill give u a hand.
Why did I not take his money?
Cause I have only painted wheels twice, the slack of exp is not worth the money he offered
He shouldn't have to pay someone to learn something.
And I'm not a hungry savage wolf.. I assume you are not too, right?
Could be wrong
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Headlight job did not seem hard and it wasn't. The rest are very very simple things that could not have been screwed up, and they weren't. The headlight itself was only delayed another few days because we had to redo it, and yes I completely admit fault for that, but the rest aren't issues about the headlight itself, it's mainly things that are completely out of my control (previous damages from previous owner of the car...? AC problem afterwards that should not have been linked to LED wiring, etc..). If I knew that it would take so much trouble I would not have taken the money. If you're talking about money, I said it before on the thread, in the end I received much much less than $5 an hour. The countless hours helping him research (4g TL's are impossible to find info on online), helping him obtain quotes from other shops, helping him with everything else about his car (quotes, information about exhaust, paint, etcetc..). Trust me, if I could take my time back and give him his money back and have none of this happen both Eric and I would be VERY happy to. I spent a lot of time myself helping him, but I'm sure Eric has spent even more than me talking about stuff that was unrelated to whatever we were doing for him.
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Originally Posted by sdubfid
There is only 1 problem. Everyone has a different perception of quality. What some people consider a nice weld I consider a dogs breakfast. The only real important part is if the customer is happy.
I've done 50+ private welding/cnc jobs for around 10 local forums and zero complaints.
a) If I can't do it I say NO
b) If you say "but Billy will do it for $34" I say take it to Billy, because you are just going to complain as you are looking to save pennies and I have no patience for you
c) If I don't want to do it I put a high price on it. They paid, were happy with the work and it ended up being in a magazine. It's their money. They are happy with the end result and that's all that matters.
d) On the other hand I have done countless jobs for peanuts to help people out just because I enjoy the work and practice makes perfect. I hate seeing people getting gouged for simple stuff.
e) shops don't do favors, shops have bills to pay and families to feed, good ones will stand behind their work
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The thing is, headlight work is straight forward to me but I consider it very very time consuming. The amount of time to take off the bumper carefully and the headlights took me a good hour (I don't know if it's just me but holy shit 4g TL bumpers are annoying to take off. Never ran into a car like this before). Then took everything off the headlight (ballast, screws), baked it, pried it open which took another hour or so for both. Stripped the chrome off, sanded it and prepped it, primer, paint while sanding in between... Figuring out how to mount the LEDs on the shroud then leading the wires out of the headlight while putting all the pieces back together, then sealing the headlight. Etcetcetc took a very long time. I would not have ever done this for free for a stranger, a good friend maybe or to return a favour.
On the other hand, I have no problem at all helping friends swap wheels, install spacers, intakes, exhaust, etcetc because that stuff isn't as time consuming