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Originally Posted by mr_chin

I wouldn't really call that a skill then. You're specifically speaking of just guys when in turn there are girls that does the same. So what these guys you talk about do are go on a search for the opposite sex with the same intention.

If a chick have no intention of ONS, they will not stand at a bar waiting to get picked up for a ONS.

So if anyone here wants to join the circle of ONS, make sure you know what you're getting into. The person you have ONS with, have probably done it a hundred times.

no dude, that is all there is to ONS.

what you are thinking of is super duper rare... only someone with no experience would say that.

anyone that's had ONS knows... that's exactly what ONS is. anyone who's willing to do a ONS is already in that circle.

if you pick up a girl that wasn't INTENDING on having a ONS, but she goes home with you, she's already "willing" and "open" to the idea of getting picked up, otherwise she wouldn't of gone with you. what's the difference?

you think ONS only applies to guys that go out and hit up innocent girls that have never had ONS? that's just called picking up a girl that's about to have her initiation to the ONS circle. everyone has their first time. and once that door is open, like any drug, it's just... whatever. you either keep doing it or you don't.

it IS still skill. you go out, and you're looking to pick up a girl, ONS or not, it doesnt matter, the point is just to get someone you find attractive home tonight. and if you do, that's ALL there is to the game. it doesn't matter who she is. doesnt matter if she does ONS every night or she's never had a ONS.

the game is in YOUR hands. you're telling me if a dude goes out looking to pick up girls and he just happens to pick up a girl that's had ONS's before and sleeps with him that night, it's not skill?

you make it sound like as if she'd sleep with any guy that wanted a ONS.
no man. it still takes skill. i can bet you 9/10 guys that approach her will still have no chance in hell.

girls that stand around waiting to get picked up still FILTER guys. they want a guy they WANT. and they want a guy that's smooth enough to intrigue them.

most guys in this thread couldn't get a ONS if they went out 5 days a week every week. they'd have to keep doing it till they got smooth enough that even the "slutty" ONS girls accept them.

you go out there and try to get a ONS with someone that isn't below your standards. someone you find attractive (i don't care if they're sluts or innocent girls or some bar star etc). I bet you you'll have less than a 10% success rate.

I could put most men here in front of an attractive girl looking for a ONS and they wouldn't have a chance.

and by the way, if you're out looking to pick up a girl, you shouldn't care how many times she's fucked or had ONS, and she shouldn't care about how many times you've done it. that's not the point of a ONS.

ONS with a clean girl/guy that doesn't sleep around... that's an oxymoron. that's not a ONS situation. you're just looking for a fucking BF or GF... not a ONS.

ONS is the epitome of sleeping around. that's the WHOLE point.

trancehead knows what i'm talking about.

Originally Posted by trancehead

it is a game. and games require skill
you gotta jump through hoops lilke you would with any facet in life. be it, selling insurance, selling ur car, negotiating logistics, cock blocking friends. it is how you navigate the social realm. basically- do you have the linguistic and body language capabilities to translate your social wants/functionalities

like trancehead says, when you go out and pick up girls, you don't know if they're looking for a ONS or not. you go and you hit on them and you feel them out... see if they're down or find you attractive etc. see if the energy flows back and forth, if it does... how do you know she's just not really attracted to you? how do you know she's not looking for a ONS or maybe she was just bored or there really is just some spark for the moment? you don't know. you don't ASK them "oh youre standing at a bar, you must be looking for a ONS". how do you know?
not all girls that stand around are looking for ONS's. and that's so stereotyped... i have barely in my life ever seen a girl just standing there at a bar, waiting all night for the right guy to come by to "pick them up". every ONS i've had stared on the dance floor. i zero in on someone I find is attractive and I just approach them, dance with them, drink with them and if I'm not feeling it, or she's not feeling it... you move on. I don't know who she is. you never know till afterwards when you get to know them better.

some girls immediately you know they have very little or no experience with ONS's but they're still down cuz they like you. some other girls immediately you know she's a pro and you can skip all the bullshit and just cut to the chase. once u know how to work it... yeah.. it's just a game man. you don't care where they come from. you just want to pick up girls.

the success is only measured in whether or not you fuck her. that's it. that's the ONLY rule to the game. you either score, or you don't.


I'm not trying to make myself look like some master pickup artist or some shit. my success rate is like... less than 40%. it's not that high at all. but there were a few years where I went out a lot. and the actual number of ONS i've had is a lot higher than most men, but the success rate isn't that high. it's like fishing... you don't always catch fish every time you go out. but if you go fishing often, you'll catch a lot more fish than the person next to you.