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Originally Posted by Renxo

You don't use the crate for a time out or bad dog... you use it to train the dogs bladder to be held overnight and for longer duration like work time....

THIS. The crate should NEVER be used as punishment. Dogs are den animals, and the crate should be their safe place, their refuge, somewhere they WANT to go.

Originally Posted by ICE BOY

You can't just let your dog out and expect them to automatically pee, especially if they're accustomed to peeing inside.

Going out, specifically to pee or poo, especially if you know they're due, should be a trained duty. Meaning, no loose leash, walking about, sniffing stuff, la-dee-dahh, take 1/2 an hour til you're ready, type behavior. I mean, it might take 1/2hr the first few times but they should be fully aware that they're out there to do a job. You should be able to put them in a "work" mentality and as soon as their physically able, they should go.

And this too.