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Originally Posted by Soundy
This is nothing like most other highway projects. This isn't a simple re-paving - they have to widen the road, a piece at a time, in some places adding overpasses, new ramps, water passages, and in general completely re-aligning most of the road, all while maintaining three working lanes each direction 15 hours of the day.
In most cases, this widening means creating new TEMPORARY lanes, shifting all the traffic over to it, ripping up old lanes, re-laying those, shifting PART of the traffic back over, re-doing the remaining old potions, THEN finally paving the whole lot as one smooth piece. Some areas, they've had to do the expansion of each direction separately because the lanes are at different levels. Some areas have required whole new overpasses to accommodate the width.
The new Cape Horn interchange alone has been a MASSIVE project of simultaneously re-aligning and inter-connecting three major routes, AND re-aligning operating rail lines in the process.
The logistics of the roadbuilding itself go beyond MOST other projects, and are further complicated by the need to KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING BETWEEN 5AM and 8PM EVERY DAY.
I don't know why either, since you clearly are unable to see anything beyond your own car's bumper. Your statement, "there have been countless highway projects like this..." makes it obvious you have no understanding or appreciation of the sheer scope of the PMH1 project.
But by all means, do keep coming back, my FAIL button needs a good workout.
(And no, I don't work for Kiewit, the Province, or anyone else even remotely involved in this project... I'm just a tradesman who has to drive all over the Lower Mainland on a daily basis, has watched all this come together over the last three years or so, and greatly appreciates the improvements already seen, and those yet to come, all of which make my travel easier and less stressful, and my work day shorter.)
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I am an engineer. I work for an industrial construction company who was the GC on a $1.5 billion copper and gold mine. Yes, I know absolutely nothing of construction, logistics, or big projects... But please do continue to explain to me how paving a fucking flat piece of land is so difficult compared to basically BUILDING AN ENTIRE FUCKING REFINERY IN THE MIDDLE OF BUTT FUCK NOWHERE.
Also the projects I referenced are mountain passes (97C) these are canyon routes (as in they twist and turn on a road that is carved into the side of a mountain with a sheer cliff on one side). For much of that project they added two lanes onto the existing roadway (as Lomac pointed out). This was probably far more complicated than paving a little more of the shoulder as they are doing on the #1.
I am not saying the highway is not going to be great once they are done, just that they could take a little care in making sure the way they leave the highway is in slightly better condition, and again I am not complaining about places where they might not have had a chance to finish something up overnight, and it was fixed the next day. I am talking about clear failures that have now been left for months unfixed.
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Originally Posted by melloman
^^ I didn't know it was so hard to make a smooth transition. Considering all they'd have to do is thin out the asphalt at the end where the new asphalt ends. This requires 1 guy, with a rake, and then the roller goes over it.
 Seems SOOOOOO hard.
They've done it at:
Westbound just after Kensington.
Westbound just after 1st ave
Westbound just before Cassiar Tunnel
Eastbound just after Ironworkers Bridge
Eastbound just after Cassiar Tunnel
Eastbound just after Willingdon
They do it in LOTS of places. Then the other times they just say "Fuck it I'm lazy, lets just get this done and lets get the fuck out of here."
Shitty transitions at:
Drop off just before Willingdon Westbound
Just after Grandview Hwy Overpass Westbound
Eastbound just before Kensington
Eastbound just before Gaglardi |
Thanks for re-affirming exactly what I mean, it would not take very long to add a 1' asphalt ramp instead of a 2" 90 degree curb.