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Originally Posted by Amaru
Yeesh, and others are questioning the accuracy of my posts?? If you think something I've posted is inaccurate, please feel free to point it out, I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong... but you should probably have some idea what the fuck you're talking about before you accuse me of "making something up".
First of all, I'm fully aware that commercial aircraft carry mail and other cargo freight along with passengers. I've actually even mentioned that in another post in this thread. But it has nothing to do with checked passenger luggage, and freight falls under a whole different set of regulations.
There is something called "Positive Passenger Bag Match" (PPBM) that is required on all international flights (in Europe and North America, anyway). It has been in place for many years, mainly in response to the Air India bombing.
In a nutsell, PPBM means airlines and ground staff use software to match passenger lists (collected by the gate agents and verified by flight attendant head counts) with checked baggage manifests (collected by the ticket agent when you check your bag and the tag is scanned). If a passenger is not on a flight but his bag is in the cargo hold, the airline will remove the bag before they push back from the gate.
The main reason for this is security (can't put a time-rigged bomb in a checked bag and then not board the plane) but it also ensures that airlines don't have to transport luggage back to the original departure airport if someone bails on a flight.
PPBM is not mandatory on US domestic flights because all checked bags at US airports are screened so it's considered unnecessary. After 9/11 there was some proposed FAA regulation that tried to make it mandatory on US domestic flights as well, but it was shot down by airline lobby groups and the screening of checked bags made it redundant. I am not 100% sure on this, but I think some US carriers may have internal policies that require PPBM be used on domestic routes even though it's not government-mandated.
Of course there are exceptions to this... such as if the bag is accidentally misplaced, improperly tagged, not scanned by baggage handlers, or if you miss the flight. But airlines do not intentionally put an international passenger's luggage on a different flight unless there's a legitimate reason, such as a lost bag or a mistake by ground crews. Generally speaking it's far more likely that your bags will arrive late (due to a screwup or lost bag) than early (which almost never happens on international routes).
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So I was right, there is no FAA regulation...
Also sounds to me like not having enough time to load a bag onto a flight, or a full cargo hold sounds like reason enough to put the bag on the next flight... Especially considering I have had that happen to me on both a KLM flight and an Air Canada flight. (And these were both trans-continental flights).
The reason this is perfectly acceptable is because PPBM only protects in one scenario. When you check a piece of baggage onto a flight, if you do not board that flight they will remove the baggage. It does not mean that the airlines must put you and the baggage on the same flight. (AKA the bolded part of all of the above, which you stated was an exception, is the only thing PPBM is actually intended to prevent against.
So I stand behind exactly what I said, you just made that shit up, and called it a fact. Even though it had no bearing on what others pointed out. So how about you go learn what the fuck you are talking about.