[murd0c]

Originally Posted by saucywoman

First of all, do you even know if she likes you? Also, I was a very mature 22 year old and thinking back I wasn't even on the same mind set I am now. Sorry to say but with the amount she will change over the next few years would probably lead to divorce at some point. Could that wreck the relationship with the dad ever?

Thinking about that, if you do decide to go ahead just straight up tell her dad "I like your daughter but before starting a relationship with her I'd like to see if you're ok with me asking her out?"
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No question if I find out she likes me which I dont know yet cause shes giving me mixed signals I will ask her dad right away. Like I said I respect him a lot and he deserves that rather then going behind his back.

Originally Posted by MasonJar

22 to 31 IS a big "age" difference in regards to place in life, but if you are comfortable with where she is in HER life then I think it may be okay.

You have a more intimate relationship with her and her family, so it is not like you are picking up some random 22 yo from a bar and hoping she doesn't still have a teddy bear on her bed. If you know her maturity, if you know where she in in her life, if you know her habits, job, goals, attitude, and are comfortable with all of it, then you should go for it.

I would be hesitant if you are thinking, "oh, she would be great if.....she didn't still fight with her parents...or if she had a stable job...or if she wasn't so emotionally immature" but they way you describe her, she sounds kinda cool.

We can all sit back and look at how we have grown since 'x' age but OF COURSE we have. She will grow too but so will you....doesn't mean it is a bad thing.

The only thing YOU need to reconcile is how your relationship with her parents will change and how do you deal with the friendship if things turn sour? You will no longer be their friend...you will be the daughter's boyfriend. Your choice to date her is a big one...it would be like dating someone who has kids - a lot of people may get hurt if it doesn't work out. Its a lot to think about, man. On the other hand...there is always the chance you guys will have a great future together.

I wouldn't worry so much about the age thing as I would about the family. At the end of the day, however, if you feel it with her....go for it!

Honestly I think I'm making the age more of a big deal since she is so mature for her age and likes older guys as well. I've just known the family for around 10 years. I get along with her older sister and her b/f so well and "she" lives with them and just recently her sis is always inviting me over to party with them.

The relationship I have with her dad is the best I have with anyone I consider an adult that could in reality be my father(which I said to him last week shit I bet him a case of beer about 6 years ago to go swim in harrison lake in feb while camping when it was -15 out. I think thats one thing that really attracts me on top of who she is cause family is important to me and everyone else I have dated has always been in fucked up situations which was a turn off.

Her Birthday is Tuesday and I'm thinking about sending her flowers with them not saying who they are from. If she confronts me about it I will admit it but that will help me gauge if those signals shes sending me are false or not. Is that a good idea?

Originally Posted by Recon604

damn murdoc u got too many problems

fuck man thats the trouble I got into being a month off work hanging with her dad and his g/f and texting her everyday all day