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Originally Posted by snails
@ ulic...
have you ever dealt with a close death?
thinking about the posts above has encouraged me to enlighten you.
when i was 17 (6 years ago) i came home one day to my dad who had hung himself in the hallway of the front door. its pretty fucked up for a 17 year old to see his dad chillin there like that but i reached my closure quickly because i knew what happened. not just because me and my brother had to take him down.
he left a letter for us. it described why he had done what he had and that he cared for us regardless but his time has ended for him.
to him. it was justified and i had a hard time after that. but knowing it was his choice brought me closure. to the point im completely comfortable talking about it because death is part of life.
BUT
if my dad just disappeared and i was told he was dead with little/no information of why.. i would spend a lot of time wondering.. why.. where.. how..is he suffering? can i do anything.. you know because im a human and not some fucking animal.
i would be pretty disappointed if i disappeared and people were so quick to write me off as dead.
who is to say the plane didnt go down close to some remote island and there are a handful of survivors? sure that may be 0.0001 % but to those family members thats enough.
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sorry for your loss.
but there is a difference. if your dad just up and disappeared (i have stated this example before), moving on is a little harder.
but, these passengers didn't just up and disappear. they were on a plane. it is a plane related incident. and statistically, almost all plane related incidents are fatal, and due to human error, mechanical error, or inflicted damage (hijacking etc).
yes there is a 0.0001% chance they're still alive.
just like there's a 0.0001% chance aliens will come down and give us awesome technology to go back in time and fix everything we ever wanted.
you can't put hope into those small chances.
say in the future they DO find them or figure out exactly what happened.
great... but that will come regardless... u know what i mean?
if they figure out the mystery 1 week from now or 50 years from now. the day will come. and you don't wait for it or demand the people to look HARDER.
you know what i mean?
they're already looking. they'll find an answer eventually (hopefully).
that day WILL come. don't sit around waiting for it. move on. and the day the info comes... will be the day it comes.
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark
Well then you're dwelling on the people who can't let go. Not everyone is that way. You say no one in history has gotten closure from knowing all the details. You don't know that and if you think you do maybe you're the one who needs to see the shrink.
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yes im dwelling on people that can't let go.
the ones that can, obviously forgive and forget. and move on.
the ones that can't are the ones that keep crying for the government...demanding governments and corporations to TRY HARDER.
but really.. like i said above. the answer will come. just not as fast as they want.
"There are two kinds of pain. The sort of pain that makes you strong, or useless pain. The sort of pain that's only suffering."
which do you think this is?
this is about acceptance. and obviously there are tons of people that don't get this.
you accept it, because you have NO CONTROL over it. destiny, fate, determinism, whatever you wanna call it.
acceptance is the first step to get over things. and demanding others to find an answer for you, is not acceptance.
my quarrel isn't with people that want info. they can have their info.
my quarrel is them hating on the government and airliner for not having an answer RIGHT NOW, FOR THEM. cuz they DEMAND it. they NEED it for closure (or so they think it will help).
you don't fucking blame a detective or get angry at him cuz he cant find your killer NOW. cuz you want to satisfy some immediate impulsive feeling to KNOW. it's not their fault. and they're TRYING. you get what i mean?
is this clear?
they are making absurd demands.
like little kids wanting their reward NOW. wanting the answer NOW.
you fucking wait. theyre trying as hard as they can. if they find nothing, and never find anything... that is a result that one should have already accepted too.
you cannot be attached to outcomes. whatever outcome happens, answer or not, you should be satisfied. of course you hope for an answer, but if no answer comes... you can't fucking cry like a baby.
this is clear now right?