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StylinRed · 07-23-2014, 03:42 PM

Older members who may remember my past posts, were probably expecting me to make a thread about this but I've been refraining to do so for a couple reasons

1) being the tragic situation is just getting me too emotional to post about

2) I've been concerned that CiC's imminent joining in on the discussion will turn off everyone else to the tragedy of the situation.

So i'll try to make this short and then retreat from the discussion.

This latest incident started because 3 Israeli teens who live in colonies taken over from Palestinians were killed after hitchhiking, it's unknown who killed them or why but Israel took this opportunity to blame Hamas as it was the perfect situation to paint blame as Hamas was finally conforming with the West Bank and forming a unity government (which incensed Israel)

This caused Israeli citizens to kidnap and beat a Palestinian boy and then burning him alive.

That's what sparked the conflict, prior to that the ceasefire was seemingly working aside from the economic blockade not being lifted. But now we have a repeat of the destruction of Gaza.

And Israel keeps trying to justify murder but

you can't justify murder not even the Nazis did that. There are now Over 650 civilian deaths, thousands injured and well over 100,000 displaced within their ghetto.

Yes I call Gaza a ghetto because that's what it is...everything about it is monitored and controlled by Israel, most homes did not have running water even before this incursion and Gaza itself only has electricity for several hours a day, Hospitals are kept with inadequate supply of meds, homes are still in tatters from the prior conflicts as construction supplies are kept out of the area; food is scarce as well, that's a ghetto.

There are only 2 entrances into the ghetto and they are kept locked so the only way to get any form of supplies into the ghetto are through tunnels, tunnels which Israel has consistently layed waste to. How is it not a Ghetto? how is whats described not like Nazi ghettos which had secret routes where Jews used to bring in food or help people escape? Gaza is a ghetto.

Israel drops leaflets or makes phone calls before they bomb an area but BBC news correspondents say from the moment leaflets are dropped or people are called there is less than 1 minute before the bombs actually drop. So civilians have to run as fast as they can from one corner of the ghetto to the other...the psychological effects must be staggering.

Israel just bombed a Hospital, a hospital! There have been numerous news correspondents for agencies/channels like ABC News, CNN, Reuters who have been speaking out against what they've been witnessing on the ground (from indiscriminate attacks on civilians to Israelis cheering over the bombing of homes) those correspondents have been removed from their posts...CiC made a post about that but I've no doubt it went largely ignored due to the "CiC effect".

I know Israel is trying to make a case with the "rockets" that militants are firing in (there is some merit there) but what people don't realize is that, previously, those rockets were homemade coffee cans that don't make it past the fields into any habitable area and those that do make it through simply knock the paint off of a house (thats how weak they were)

In addition to that, the rockets had only been flying into occupied territories, cities taken over by Israel by throwing out Palestinians (Gazans) from their homes and moving Israelis in, so it would be like me throwing rocks at my home after you kicked me out of it!

I know It may sound like I'm saying 'come on so what?' but I'm not I just want a better picture of whats actually going on because people who look at the issue passingly, imagine actual military type rockets and think that they're landing into an inhabited area that's also legitimately Israels and (but they weren't)

I admit this time around though the militants seem to have stronger rockets that are reaching further in and capable of causing actual damage to the point of activating the Israeli Iron Dome.

So let me say here I don't agree with the militants and Hamas' tactics! I actually think it's the dumbest thing they could do because they know it won't do anything except illicit Israels indiscriminate murder of Palestinians.

But I understand why they're fighting back, in what I imagine they view to be, the best way they know how. After all they're psychologically tortured, economically deprived, and malnourished, uneducated people (thanks to Israel)... So who wouldn't be fighting back in anyway possible after being subjected to the atrocities they have been? even Jews fought back against the Nazis whichever way they knew how. But at least there was an end for the Jewish plight as the world came to their aid...The question is when will it come for Palestinians.

edit israel bombed a hospital again today saying that only militants were in the hospital -_-

07-23-2014, 03:42 PM	#22
StylinRed I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CELICAland Posts: 25,699 Thanked 10,404 Times in 3,923 Posts Failed 1,390 Times in 625 Posts	Older members who may remember my past posts, were probably expecting me to make a thread about this but I've been refraining to do so for a couple reasons 1) being the tragic situation is just getting me too emotional to post about 2) I've been concerned that CiC's imminent joining in on the discussion will turn off everyone else to the tragedy of the situation. So i'll try to make this short and then retreat from the discussion. This latest incident started because 3 Israeli teens who live in colonies taken over from Palestinians were killed after hitchhiking, it's unknown who killed them or why but Israel took this opportunity to blame Hamas as it was the perfect situation to paint blame as Hamas was finally conforming with the West Bank and forming a unity government (which incensed Israel) This caused Israeli citizens to kidnap and beat a Palestinian boy and then burning him alive. That's what sparked the conflict, prior to that the ceasefire was seemingly working aside from the economic blockade not being lifted. But now we have a repeat of the destruction of Gaza. And Israel keeps trying to justify murder but you can't justify murder not even the Nazis did that. There are now Over 650 civilian deaths, thousands injured and well over 100,000 displaced within their ghetto. Yes I call Gaza a ghetto because that's what it is...everything about it is monitored and controlled by Israel, most homes did not have running water even before this incursion and Gaza itself only has electricity for several hours a day, Hospitals are kept with inadequate supply of meds, homes are still in tatters from the prior conflicts as construction supplies are kept out of the area; food is scarce as well, that's a ghetto. There are only 2 entrances into the ghetto and they are kept locked so the only way to get any form of supplies into the ghetto are through tunnels, tunnels which Israel has consistently layed waste to. How is it not a Ghetto? how is whats described not like Nazi ghettos which had secret routes where Jews used to bring in food or help people escape? Gaza is a ghetto. Israel drops leaflets or makes phone calls before they bomb an area but BBC news correspondents say from the moment leaflets are dropped or people are called there is less than 1 minute before the bombs actually drop. So civilians have to run as fast as they can from one corner of the ghetto to the other...the psychological effects must be staggering. Israel just bombed a Hospital, a hospital! There have been numerous news correspondents for agencies/channels like ABC News, CNN, Reuters who have been speaking out against what they've been witnessing on the ground (from indiscriminate attacks on civilians to Israelis cheering over the bombing of homes) those correspondents have been removed from their posts...CiC made a post about that but I've no doubt it went largely ignored due to the "CiC effect". I know Israel is trying to make a case with the "rockets" that militants are firing in (there is some merit there) but what people don't realize is that, previously, those rockets were homemade coffee cans that don't make it past the fields into any habitable area and those that do make it through simply knock the paint off of a house (thats how weak they were) In addition to that, the rockets had only been flying into occupied territories, cities taken over by Israel by throwing out Palestinians (Gazans) from their homes and moving Israelis in, so it would be like me throwing rocks at my home after you kicked me out of it! I know It may sound like I'm saying 'come on so what?' but I'm not I just want a better picture of whats actually going on because people who look at the issue passingly, imagine actual military type rockets and think that they're landing into an inhabited area that's also legitimately Israels and (but they weren't) I admit this time around though the militants seem to have stronger rockets that are reaching further in and capable of causing actual damage to the point of activating the Israeli Iron Dome. So let me say here I don't agree with the militants and Hamas' tactics! I actually think it's the dumbest thing they could do because they know it won't do anything except illicit Israels indiscriminate murder of Palestinians. But I understand why they're fighting back, in what I imagine they view to be, the best way they know how. After all they're psychologically tortured, economically deprived, and malnourished, uneducated people (thanks to Israel)... So who wouldn't be fighting back in anyway possible after being subjected to the atrocities they have been? even Jews fought back against the Nazis whichever way they knew how. But at least there was an end for the Jewish plight as the world came to their aid...The question is when will it come for Palestinians. edit israel bombed a hospital again today saying that only militants were in the hospital -_- Last edited by StylinRed; 07-23-2014 at 04:34 PM.