OP has no clue just how damn lucky he is that there's no failing in this section.
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Originally Posted by r1237h
But let's not pretend that this is not petty nick-picking just to fill a quota, ok?
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We won't, because it isn't.
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Two points. First, this happened at a red light, not while driving.
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Why the hell would you think being stopped at a light means you're no longer driving?
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Second,ambulances have this thingee called a siren which manages to draw the attention of drivers in the area. At least here in the Tri-city area, and also in New York City, where I drove one for 5 years.
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I call BS on this, or you would've noticed at least a few inattentive twats that didn't move out of your way when en route to an emergency.
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Originally Posted by r1237h
Almost as well known as the good ol "I haven't bothered to read the thread, and am therefore speaking out of my ass" deal, eh?
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Says the guy who didn't even read the post he replies to...
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Originally Posted by r1237h
In the cave I live in, it is not known to all that standing at a red light and not moving is considered operating a vehicle.
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What, pray tell, do you consider it to be then? You are the only thing keeping that vehicle from moving and also the only thing capable of moving that vehicle in an emergency.
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In addition, when I asked why this is a problem, he answered that a car can have an accident even with the car, and all the cars around it, not moving. When I asked how this is physically possible, he had nothing to say. His partner tried telling me about how driving while playing with electronic devices can lead to accidents. I agreed with him, but when I asked what does that have to do with the case at hand, he also had nothing to say.
The idea wasn't to "win" a debate with them, but just to understand what the issue was.
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The issue was you weren't paying attention to the situation around you, a responsibility that doesn't stop just because your car has stopped.
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Originally Posted by sekin67835
Now the electronic ban law was implemented a few years ago, but i do feel like many drivers aren't aware that reading their phones during a stop light is illegal.
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Anyone that stupid really shouldn't have a license, so IMO them getting a ticket is them being lucky.
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Originally Posted by sebberry
How does the "device" come into play here?
If you're the sort of person to hit the gas for a light that's just turned green without checking the crosswalks and intersection, then you shouldn't be driving.
It doesn't matter if you're reading a message on a phone, taking a sip of coffee of reading directions from a paper note, you do your checks to ensure it's safe to proceed before you move.
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So you wait until AFTER the light has already turned green to bother looking around? You should be making those checks before the other light has turned red, or are you one of those pricks that wastes half of the green light before moving because you weren't paying attention?