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I have had dealings with them and know others who also have. They have adopted the stance that laws do not apply to them and refuse to obey what they decide are unacceptable to them. They are often obstructive, confrontational and violent. They will file rediculous civil lawsuits against Police and others who won't agree with them and demand huge sums of money, sometimes into the millions of dollars. It can cost those served a lot of money to try to overturn the charges and demands. They use the very system they say is illegitimate and illegal.
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