[Timpo]

Originally Posted by mk1freak

I have a 14 odyssey touring.. (with vacuum)
Fucking we've only used the dam thing maybe a dozen times....
Kids make the van dirty as fuck. Make sure if you have protectors on back of seats cuz the little fuckers will leave scuff marks.
Had a 2010 gc.. It was a great van used it on a bunch of road trips no issues.... I'm a believer if you don't drive hard the vehicle will last longer. I had no problems with the Dodge.
I looked into the Nissan quest with an elgrand conversion.... Pricey. And the rear on jdm has no bumper. Not legal in Canada

Drove 12 sienna as well. Dam thing was jerky to drive.. I picked the odyssey because even with the automatic stigma it drove the smoothest. Though I would've just picked and ex with entertainment.... Wife fell for the vacuum gimmick

Couldn't you leave the rear bumper on?
Visually, you can just leave it on without any issue...