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Originally Posted by Hondaracer
there is also a threshold though where price VS volume has to come into consideration.
if your drinks are $14 a pop, odds are i'm only going to order 1
if they are $10, i may order 3 or more, its just a mindset, and i'm sure the profits made on 3 $10 drinks is substantially more than 1 $14 drink
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I totally get it. I'm not saying it doesn't have a negative effect. Its just the way it is. Every business is different and some, volume works for profitability, and some, margins work for profitability.
I think the food I put out provides massive value for people, but some people just don't see it. They see some fuck off salad and a stromboli that you can only eat half of and you throw the rest away as value over a 6oz steak from a respected supplier with locally grown, pesticide, GMO free vegetables that are in season. All I can do is hope the people that come try what I offer leave feeling good, and hopefully a bit more educated about what goes into their food. I truly believe the wastefulness of food production is destroying the earth.
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Originally Posted by Z3guy
^ if you don't want to spend money on a nice dinner with wine and cocktails you should just stay home then. Do you think restaurants and bars just decided to gouge you? I would say 80% of restaurants make the owner a salary and less than 5% overall profit from gross sales. Sure cocktails were under $10 before, but have you seen real estate prices? Most restaurants renew their leases every 5yrs. Most businesses have seen their rent double over the past 5yrs. Construction costs are up dramatically, food costs are up, labour costs are up (hard to hire any kitchen help under $15hr). Also, most leases are triple net, hence it is the renter than has the pay the property tax. Business property tax downtown has gone up over 50% over the past 3 years.
Going out for dinner is about a great experience, sure it might cost more, but I would rather go out less and really enjoy myself instead of worrying about every cost when you are going out.
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You are exactly the type of person I want coming in. Food is expensive, and so are my (and should be because they are talented and hard working as fuck) staff.
We bust our asses to put good food on the plates and people appreciating it is why we do.
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Originally Posted by CivicBlues
Fuck that shit. Some of us don't drink (either DD or for health reasons) and some of us don't need a lot to get buzzed or shitfaced (Asians, heh heh). Are those people supposed to just stay home and not partake in our dining scene because they're also not raging alcoholics or don't want to drop $150pp every night out?
That being said Vancouver, 5 years ago you could turn up without reservations to a semi-trendy restaurant on a Friday/Saturday night and be seated in a reasonable timeframe. Now? Fuggetaboutit.
Also, drinks that used to be $8-10 are now $15. I'm sorry that's just price gouging plain and simple. Especially when you order a "glass" of wine and they give you a pathetic 1/8th glass pour. In Europe a glass of wine is a fucking GLASS filled to near the brim. Speaking of which, I've also never been pestered so much in this city by servers to order more (i.e. "Is there anything more I can get you?", "get you another beer?" "would you like tea or coffee?" every 15 minutes, etc.) No fuck you, I don't linger. I will just sit here with my water and my meal and I'll be out of your hair in 30 minutes.  |
You should have a drink and chill the fuck out.