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Originally Posted by threezero

I Don't believe that owners are require to muzzle dog aggressive dogs. Only human aggressive dogs are require to be muzzled by law and to acquire a special dangerous dog license. That was the case when I had to get the dangerous license for my dog.

It's not "required" as long as owners can "handle them".
As long as you don't let your dog to go out for walk, dog park and randomly biting around the other dogs, I don't care.
You can easily get one of the soft muzzled from Pet Smart, it's all up to your choice and ability how much you can handle.

CCTV clearly showed that when the "accident" happened, owners were not aware of wtf was going on, they were busy smoking and talking to eachother.
Once the dog bit mine, then they tried to pull away but couldn't just control their dog.

Originally Posted by originalhypa

People who don't take responsibility for their actions make me sick. Especially after being confronted with the video evidence, etc.
unbelievable.

They are keep denying, refusing, and pointing finger at me&my dog even after the footage proof.
Also their dog seems to be just fine when my dog had to go through surgery.
I had a chance to ask them if their dog is okay and all I got from them was "it's your dog who attacked my dog and you need to take control over your shitty dog".
No apologies, no courtesy to ask if my dog is okay, no respect at all.
Oh well, I just left to ACS officer and RCMP to deal with them.

Originally Posted by Fafine

Props to OP for being composed and calm through this situation.
i dont believe in dangerous or bad dogs
Only bad owners.

I agree. Thank you.

Originally Posted by threezero

some dogs are harder to handle than other. I don't believe that everybody should own any kind of dogs. More like this is the case of mismatch owner with dogs. The same dog could still be dog aggressive with a different owner but everything can be manage if one is responsible

Originally Posted by threezero

Thank you for that. I feel like the trendy saying of "no dangerous dogs only bad owner" is so overrated. Some dogs ARE hard to handle. Some are even meant to be hard to handle. Before you go blaming the owner for being a bad owner, the same owner would have been a model canine parent had he selected something more handlable for their situation and ability.
Is he a bad owner or just way over his head?
This is the same analogy as teenage kids with high power sports cars

I agree. Thank you.
I understand what you mean and I mean no blame or harm to any dogs or owners out there, but please,
at least pay attention to your dog while you're out and spend some time to get to know your dog and "connect" if you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by quasi

I agree 100%. After my bully past I posted in this forum about the new dog we adopted from Kamloops SPCA. He was an American Bulldog Cross, beautiful dog super friendly with a great temperament to other people but once I got out with him a bit I realized he was a bit of a handful. He would go straight Cujo around other dogs, he was a strong dog probably 110 pounds pretty much solid muscle it took all of me to hold him back with a harness and a collar.

I soon realize this dog could be a huge liability because of the high density area we lived and us having so many different kids at our place all the time. I have a 10 year old, he's 10 and he makes mistakes. All it would have took it him coming in the front door when a dog is walking by and the new dog pushing past him and shredding whatever dog he got a hold of. My wife didn't talk to me for a week but I took the next day off work, put the dog in the vehicle and drove him back to Kamloops. I really liked the dog but realized for our needs he wasn't the right fit.

We now have a border collie cross who we've nicknamed asshole because he's an asshole, but he's harmless.

For the record I'm not against bully breeds, I'd get another one in a heartbeat but it has to be the right situation and fit. I miss my Bully so much, I tell my wife everyday that I like this asshole dog we got but he will never replace my Staffie NEVER!!!!

Originally Posted by Ch28

I applaud you for doing the right thing. I honestly can't say that I'd be able to do that especially if I already developed a bond with the dog. Must've been pretty hard on you and the dog.

I'm so sorry to hear that..
It must've been so tough for you especially when you are already attached to your dog and developed so much bond with him/her as Ch28 already mentioned..
I really applaud you for doing so..

Originally Posted by Fafine

Then they should be a good owner, and keep an eye on their dog if they know he's trouble. Or be responsible like quasi.

Thank you.
I agree. Once you've made a mistake, (at least it seemed like they do realize shit went bad),
be mature enough to suck it up, and take the consequences.
Simple apology and follow up would've made everything a lot smoother and easier.



*UPDATE*

ACS and RCMP called me yesterday, It was my pup's Bday.

ACS officer said he received all of my emails, attachments, pretty much everything I've prepped and passed on.
He even told me I've done enough and leave it up to him and his supervisor.

He briefly already spoke to the owners and they're not cooperating well.
To make things worse, their dog is not registered any cities in lower mainland.
They demand proofs of CCTV AGAIN, and pictures, invoices that I claim due to my pup's damage.

Him and his boss will follow up this matter and they're working on;

- Make them to register their dog
- Fine them due to this incident
- Fixed leash less than 1.5 meters and muzzle restrictions
- Register as vicious/dangerous dog which prevents the dog going to any public area or dog parks
- Slap on monitor system for next 6 months or so (If they don't follow the restrictions, they're looking at pretty big fat fine bills each time witnessed)

However, ACS officer cannot force them to cover up my vet bills.
That's something that need to be dealt via small claims court which I think is time-wasting and unnecessary.

RCMP also called and told me to cooperate with ACS officer by the city, however,
If i come across with them and feel dangerous/threatened, I can call in immediately as I've got the direct number to the specific officer.
RCMP already has the owners and the dog's profile.

It will take minimum 5~max. 10 days till I get another call(probably last) from ACS officer pretty much wrapping up this case,
meantime, they might be voluntarily offer to cover up my vet bills and apologize or not.

At this point, I just want my dog recover well asap and happy to know that
ACS officer and RCMP are all helping me to sort things out at their best interest.

I built stronger relationship to other pet owners in my building and had a blast yesterday taking him to local dog park and let him be free for a while.

I sincerely hope all the other pet owners always stay alert and be healthy&safe with their pets for long.

Yes, it's exactly how the accidents happen.

You never know what kind of shit is coming to you even if you're not at fault.



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