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Originally Posted by roastpuff
^ I just finally drove a 2017 model as a loaner because my current car is in the shop. It feels so... lazy. I'm comparing to a 2008 CSX (base) and a 2017 Honda Civic EX-T.
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Indeed. Sportiness isnt really part of the equation when it comes to driving this green bin around. I like it because its quiet (Honda's are usually less isolated from road noise and vibrations) and roomy inside. Almost like a cheapie Buick. Plus at 250 a month w/ tax, its quite a bit cheaper than any comparable econobox.
My biggest gripes with it
1) CVT is garbage. The large / small planetary gears setup is super annoying. The programming screws up sometimes and you are in the large gear at 1500rpm waiting for it to kick down but it'll never kick down. It also smells like burning tranny going up steep mountain grades (same as all the other CVT's ive ever driven)
2) seats are shit. Church pews basically... the foam used by toyota is getting thinner and thinner with each generation. My older 2013 rolla had much better and thicker seats. Damn bean counters in toyota are ruining the brand. I remember when my 91 camry le had manual lumbar support. Those camry seats were thick and supportive as hell.