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Old 11-20-2017, 08:42 AM   #1033
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My Bridgestone snowies are most definitely not cheap and they’re way louder than my Pirelli P7s that I run in the warmer months.
My WS80s are louder than my all-seasons, but that's to be expected with winter tires for the most part, especially with more aggressive tread patterns.

Having had a proper test in challenging weather yesterday, I can say that the WS80 are a clear 2nd to Hakka R2s in several categories.
  • Traction and stability at higher (60-80km/h) speeds in slushy and compact snow sections are not as good as I would have liked, as I could feel the tires lose and gain traction, and resistance from slushy patches could be felt.
  • Feedback when it loses traction isn't as good as the Hakka R2 - you don't get info on the limits of the tires as much as you do with the Hakka.
  • Dry/wet traction is a step behind. You can feel the tire struggle to go through deep puddles. The sidewalls are softer and the tire doesn't seem as willing. Wanders during high speed cruise in normal weather.

Overall, it's still a good tire, I'm not afraid of getting stuck in bad conditions given that I drive accordingly. But if the price difference is minimal, then it is better to go with the Hakka R2 given that they both wear about the same and the R2 is the overall better winter tire.

Some pictures of the insanity yesterday:



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Damn, not only is yours veiny AF, yours is thick AF too. Yours is twice as thick as mine.. That looks like a 2" or maybe even 3"?
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