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Originally Posted by Jmac
Yes, but you took out half the stuff I mentioned when you quoted me and presented it as if non-car people won't care if it's a Civic or a Corolla (when you took out the stuff that they would care about).
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I quoted the parts that they wouldn't care about, which is why I said that's what they wouldn't care about. I didn't think it was that complicated to figure out.
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Originally Posted by Jmac
I'd argue non-car people would notice and would care about a 20% power difference, especially when the car that makes 20% more power also gets 6% better fuel economy, too. Suspension and brakes, probably not, but if Toyota's trying to sell it based on safety and reliability, well ... The Civic is nearly as reliable and better brakes/suspension certainly contributes to better safety, does it not?
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At the level most people use their power, suspension and brakes (a fraction of what they're capable of) most people wouldn't notice the power and nobody would notice the brakes or suspension. As far as safety I doubt holding 0.03g more in the corners (0.82 vs 0.85) or taking 3 ft more to stop (183 vs 180) is going to make a lick of difference or be detectable by anyone. They're both 5* safety rated so no difference if you do actually hit something. The reliability is going to be more significant than any of that but even a "less" reliable Civic is still going to trump anything else in that segment.
At the end of the day they should just drive both and pick the one with the interior they like best because odds are they won't notice anything beyond that.