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Originally Posted by welfare
i'm not saying the US were angels. but you didn't answer the question. do you think the region was better off because of american withdrawal?
i think this topic is very relevant.
even that video you posted. it inherently draws anger and emotion.
yet they barely slipped in one of the most important points. that the US government had no idea of birth defects caused by the chemical. hell, US soldiers literally bathed in it.
just like the multitude of stories that came out over this border issue. rather than inform people with the whole story, factors like previous methods used, illegal entry number stats, or what the alternatives were, they just went straight for the anger and emotion.
they take one piece of the story, the piece that's going to cloud rationale, and exploit it.
and i'm actually very curious on how trump is going to maintain zero tolerance and allow family members to stay together, while keeping within the laws.
changing the laws would be the only way i could see it happening
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The Vietnam discussion (which I brought up) became an unnecessary tangent to make your point, if I am understanding it - ending the practice of separating children from parents, while I think we can all agree is good, does nothing to address the problem of illegal immigration and even makes it worse. It sends a signal to potential illegal immigrants that they have one less thing to worry about when making the journey. You couple that with our own immigration policies and how the US government is literally coaching and driving people to our border so they can illegally cross, and it becomes our problem too. You want solutions, we all do, but allowing such a practice makes us no better than the shit hole countries.
A good number of Democrats and Republicans agreed that this practice was wrong, no matter how it is spun, no matter how it came to be. At least Trump can say he put a stop to it, and I can't fault him for that.
Not sure why others have to resort to name calling, negative characterizations, and talk of leaving the site altogether. Welfare doesn't really make personal attacks and provides a different, even unpopular opinion, which makes things interesting. Echo chambers suck.