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Old 12-05-2018, 10:36 PM   #56
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The point is Insite had to save the same number of people in 2017 as all OD deaths for the previous three years. That's the same number of people that died from an OD between 2003 and 2012 combined! And yet almost 1500 still died in 2017 and the trend for 2018 is to surpass that number.
I'd rather have Insite saving them than the EMS. I would imagine the speed of response at Insite being higher than EMS would impact those numbers as well.

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No, I am not against Insite on principal. However the social acceptance, removal of stigma of use, and crazy amount of funding going towards degenerate junkies has made it OK to be an addict in BC.
This is why I strongly believe things like homelessness and drug addiction need to be dealt with at the national level, not provincial or municipal. Nowhere will want to do too good of a job helping the homeless and rehabbing addicts because then you'll just get those from other areas coming there, either on their own or via useless shitheads like Ralph Klein who "fix" a problem by giving everyone bus tickets to another province.

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It's not free, it's on the backs of taxpayers
By that I meant free to the users. It's already on the backs of taxpayers, either we can pay to provide safer access to users or we can keep paying for the EMS to deal with OD's, the RCMP to deal with organized crime, dealers and theft, and ICBC to repair smash and grabbed vehicles.

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Cost is increasing, deaths are skyrocketing, and organized crime / dealers are still the primary suppliers of the increasing number of users. 2100 people wouldn't have OD'd at Insite if they were being given drugs controlled by the government.
That's why I'm saying free to use gov't run facilities would be a good thing. Deaths, OD's, organized crime income and the overall cost to taxpayers would drop significantly. I also suspect addicts would have a much easier time getting clean when they decide to do so.

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They are being enabled, they are taking advantage of not having to clean up because the government is making it so they don't have to, they are costing taxpayers more every year, and they are putting tremendous stress on first responders and the health care system to the detriment of people who didn't choose to inject illegal drugs. This is bad policy.
Hence why it would be ideal to have a separate system dedicated to dealing with it, removing the stress on the system used by people who aren't addicts. Some either can't or won't clean up either way, so we may as well minimize the impact that has on everyone else.
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