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Originally Posted by anxiety
I bet the handling and steering are improved for the new gen Camry for sure.
The 2017 Camry'a handling feels acceptable to me, but steering is definitely very numb and light
Then I tried the SE, which is the extreme opposite, like there is no in between between their luxury and sport trims. The ride felt so hard and harsh, just crashing over bumps.
I have only taken a super short test drive on the 18 or the 19 Camry, but felt the transmission shifted weird, maybe rough and jerky like you said.
I thought part of TSS is also embedded in the toyota emblem on the front of the car? The 2017 has the ACC in the front emblem.
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RE: Steering, the 2019 has appropriate weight buildup when at speed so it doesn't feel twitchy on highways unlike previous Toyota models (but not the "we're adding weight cuz it's sporty" kind of weight). Definitely feels like it's connected to 'something' and it's quite precise - haven't noticed a center deadzone
RE: Ride, yes the previous platform sport models were overdamped, undersprung, and uncomfortable. The TGNA cars imo have very good ride handling balance.
RE: Transmission, they take about 10 minutes of driving to warm up and not shift weird. After those 10 mins, shifts become much quicker and smoother. I wouldn't call it an issue but the programming is definitely really unrefined. I can see why Mazda stuck with their 6 speed... no long wait for downshift and the 2.5T has a lot of torque.
Toyota could definitely learn a trick or two from BMW, who uses the same Aisin 8 speed in X1/Mini models but have added launch control, anti-lag farts on upshifts, and consistently smooth downshifts on braking/no throttle.
RE: TSS, I've daily'd the RAV4, Corolla, and Camry with AEB set to High on all. Haven't noticed any weird braking triggers despite driving aggressively (unlike FCA and VW systems). Toyota system's steering assist is also weaker since it's a 'reactive' system as opposed to Honda's 'active' system. It's built into the badge only on some older models, but also relies on camera array on windshield for auto high beam and lane departure assist.
Though this one was courtesy of work, if I were spending my own money I'd probably go with XLE/XSE trims to get full speed adaptive cruise, would be really helpful on the bridge lineups.
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Originally Posted by Badhobz
There's a lot of recalls happening at toyota about their CVT trannies.
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RE: Badhobz quote about CVT, yeah there definitely seem to be recalls. At the risk of sounding defensive, despite the large volume of Corolla CVTs running out there, there seem to be more forum posts about the recall than actual failures... recall might be more on the preventative side of things (unlike some of the Nissans ConeZONE works on..)