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Originally Posted by Z3guy
As touring teg said, the gt4 is in a totally different league vs the 1m. The gt4 pricing is dropping fast right now. Should be able to get a low mileage car for $100k. They will even drop faster, when 718 gt4s are released in q1 2019. Porsche supposedly are producing lots of them, so you probably won’t have to pay the porsche tax on a new one. Since the 2016 gt4 really has no advantages over the 718 gt4, this will put even more downward pressure on 2016 pricing.
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I waited for 718 GT4 details before pulling the trigger on the 981 GT4, there are a number of people like me on RL that were holding out for 718 GT4 details and delivery timeframes before committing to a 981 GT4 purchase. Consider that I have a deposit for a 718 GT4 and have almost not interest in moving ahead with the purchase, I like many others do not care for the:
- Dash vent design
- Rear diffuser design and lack of centre exit exhaust
- Rear wing winglet and tail light design
- Wheel design
- Dull exhaust note
- 17% increase in base MSRP
When the 981 GT4 was first released it was met with frantic excitement, though this was 5 years after Porsche last offered a manual GT car, so there was 5 years of pent up demand for a sporty stick shift Porsche. By comparison there is very little excitement for the 718 GT4, the forums are sharply divided between those that are keeping their 981 GT4 and those that want a 718 GT4 in PDK, and the option for PDK isn't even available at this time.
My SA in Edmonton told me that 8/10 of the 718 GT4 deposits he is sitting on are likely not moving ahead with a purchase, same story with my SA here in Van, very little real demand it seems. In typical Porsche fashion there was lots of speculators that were sitting on the sidelines hoping the GT4 would present an opportunity to profit, but just like 991 GT3, the time to profit on Porsche GT cars has come and gone, Porsche hype is dead for the moment.
It's worth noting that there is only 16 GT4's for sale in all of Canada right now, at peak 2-3 months ago there was 28, that numbered has gradually dwindled over time and the cars available now are all much higher KM than what was on the market 30-60 days ago.
I paid 117K for my car, 4700km, almost every option box ticked, never tracked, virtually new in every way w/ 2 years of CPO. A comparably built 718 GT4 would have cost me 138K. Early reviews of the 718 GT4 suggest it has been softened up, it is more usable as a daily with lighter steering, softer clutch pedal, and more reserved engine note... I fail to understand how these are "improvements" to the old car, the old car is great because it's so rowdy to drive. The major selling point Porsche seems to have with the 718 GT4 is the aerodynamics, tragically though 95% of buyers could give a shit about the increase in downforce with no additional drag etc. It will be interesting to see what happens with the new 4.0L engine when the aftermarket gets their hands on it, removal of the GPF and a tune will likely completely transform the nature of the engine and the available power.
Contrary to your position, I would say that the 17% increase in base MSRP of the 718 GT4 should help prop up 981 GT4 prices. Having said that, Porsche prices in general are coming down, a 997.1 GT3 RS in RS Green just sold for 140k USD on BaT, there hasn't a been a frog trade hands for <200K in the last 4 years, but this is 2019, and times they are a changin'.