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Old 03-10-2020, 05:24 PM   #1353
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Originally Posted by twdm View Post
Arguing with Skinnypupp is like arguing with an ignorant anti-vaxxer. I will just spend time posting more relevant information from other medical professionals.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/...ears-1.5492144

The previous infectious disease specialist had a more in-depth interview.

Some of the more important snippets

"Sharkawy said he wasn't trying to trivialize the virus in any way, but that "we have to recognize that 80 per cent or more of people that are afflicted by this are not going to be very sick, they're not likely to to die."

"If it can be a message where we can develop a very good sense of hand hygiene and break the chain of transmission, we'll protect that vulnerable segment of 20 per cent that will be more likely to succumb to this infection and its complications," he said.

He said his advice is to "live your life."

A different doctor put out some newer statistics:
"More than 80 per cent of COVID-19 infections are estimated to be mild, meaning symptoms are manageable and not life-threatening, compared with 15 per cent that are severe and five per cent that are critical and require ventilation.

The percentage of people who die from the illness is currently estimated at upwards of 3.4 per cent, according to the World Health Organization, which is significantly higher than the seasonal flu at less than one per cent.

In patients aged 70 to 79, that fatality rate increases to eight per cent, and for those above 80 years old, it rises to almost 15 per cent. "
Source: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/coron...eath-1.5491907

From the same article

"Canadians need to understand that the vast majority of us are going to manage well if infected with the illness, with most not even requiring hospitalization, says infectious disease physician Dr. Isaac Bogoch at Toronto General Hospital.

"We know this COVID-19 infection can disproportionately make individuals who are elderly and individuals with chronic medical conditions more sick, but we also know that almost any infection or condition can make that population more ill as well," he said.
Agreeing with someone who has one opinion doesn't make you "correct" compared to agreeing with someone that has another opinion.

This guy's opinion is to "live your life" since of the hundreds of thousands that will die, they will be mostly old people.

I tend to agree with people who have the opinion that more drastic measures need to be taken to prevent as many people dying as possible. Yes, even if they are over 80, and even if they have heart disease.

Thankfully for people in places like Singapore, Hong Kong, Italy, Japan, those countries are listening to (IMO) the right advice, and not telling people to "live your life"

I apologize for going after you when Italy shut down their country. You can stop trying to "get me back" because you are coming off as belligerent. You just keep doubling down on these bad takes . We can stop arguing because it really doesn't matter which one is right. Maybe everyone can keep going to concerts and cruises and the virus won't come near Canada. Or maybe millions will get infected, and thousands will die. For the record, I HOPE you're right, and this ends up being no big deal. Unfortunately I'd have to twist logic so hard to see things that way, I can't think like that, but I HOPE all the experts I am listening to are all just utterly wrong. It's times like these that I wish I was a denier and could accept whacky fringe science

IN MY OPINION people who are saying "live your life" and it's not a big deal will be changing their tunes eventually. Unfortunately for the public, if these are the decision makers their governments are relying on, it'll be too late. More people will die than necessary.
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