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Originally Posted by bobbinka
Lie?
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I'd second this. Don't trust China's number one bit. Or at the very least, the Chinese number is not an apple to apple comparison to the rest.
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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter
A friend of mine who's Chinese works IT for Pirelli in Italy. He basically got out before the pandemic blew up but he said Italy is a no go for anyone Asian for a long time. Even before the pandemic he would tell me how co-workers would say he was stealing info to make replica tires in China and in general would never be welcomed when he went out. He might not return to Italy or Europe and instead look for work locally.
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You should blame the CCP for this.
Under CCP's regime, China cared nothing but economic growth, aka, money. Not moral value, discipline, etiquette, ethic... just money.
The act of corporate espionage and the stealing of IP is encouraged in China's corporate environment. Because it's not a society governed by law, where there's a boudary, or a rule of game, but about who has a better connection to the Chinese elite.
There is no cooperation with them. All they care about is their own financial success. When they are willing to "work" with you, it means that they are trying to benefit themselves. There's no such thing as a win-win situation. You either benefit them, or you don't. They don't care. It's a rat-race. I don't think every Chinese/Chinese company are like that, but I've seen way too many times in my work life to still have any faith or even the slightest courage to trust when working with Chinese/ChiCom.
So much so that I'd go out of my way, to tell my suppliers that if they are working with any ChiCom on my project, we can just call any potential deals off because it's a risk I'm no longer willing to bear. (I worked in the IT consulting business, and had way too many cases where Chinese competition or even clients themselves simply stole our idea from somewhere of our own company or our suppliers) Because they think if they can get away with this, they can make xx amount more on this project.
This is why Chinese or ChiCom get such a bad rep... even though many of them might very well actually be good people, the prejudice on Chinese (as in China) is just too big, when even their government endorse such an idea.
Edit: just to clarify, the "Chinese" here are actually Chinese from China, rather as the ethnicity. I don't hate Chinese, I married one and have many good friend from China. But I've had many bad exp. working with Chinese/ChiCom in my professional life that I simply gave up on them.