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Old 03-24-2020, 01:09 AM   #4477
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Originally Posted by frsdaily View Post
I disagree with what this guy is trying to tell everyone but agree with the intentions. Just my 0.02 because there is nothing else to do during the quarantine period.

First off MVA/MVAR rules are provincially governed. This means that the province makes their own guidelines on vehicle regs. I know its conflicting vs the federal standards but ultimately the Federal government has given the power to the provincial gov to make their own guidelines and rules.

Just curious has anyone even consulted a lawyer for the precedent of excessive noise violations? Looks like a lot of the public is uneducated and is complaining at certain officers using amazon db sound meters. It does not even matter how they administer the roadside test in the end to secure a conviction. It looks like lots of mis-information is being spreaded. Police officers do NOT need to use a proper DB meter to measure the noise and sound of a vehicle for a VI or an excessive noise violation ticket.
Look up R. v. Tootil (Former MLA driving Harley.)
https://bcdrivinglawyers.com/can-you...VjMAGqrH55BCZU

Case law precedent: the DB test is just a objective measure to corroborate the subjective opinion of an officer's view that it's loud and unecessary.

If you think that the officers are applying the legislation wrong then what is your argument to the supreme court judge who have used the provision to convict Mr. Tootil of Div. 7. (This is being used as precedent on CAR regulations as well as motorcycle)

I think the real definitive problem here is that the threshold for a VI is very very low. The usage of Vehicle inspection orders are too discretionary as it only requires a suspicion.
They don't need to tell you what they suspect you to have because that's will be written on the ticket.

Example in Quebec they have written in writing: "A police officer who has doubts about the safety of a vehicle can order it to undergo a mechanical inspection, even if the SAAQ had already deemed the vehicle in compliance, because it might have been modified again since the last inspection. Furthermore, if the police officer notices modifications for which you cannot provide a certificate of inspection from the SAAQ, your vehicle could be taken off the road if the officer believes it necessary due to the nature of the modifications." (https://saaq.gouv.qc.ca/en/road-safe...modified-cars/)

I think what the community needs is something like this an CLEAR idea on whats allowed or prohibited in B.C
Quebec: https://saaq.gouv.qc.ca/fileadmin/do...ur-vehicle.pdf
Saskatchewan: https://reginapolice.ca/vehicle/vehi...ifications.pdf

P.S Yes I'm against the notice and orders on stock vehicles. Yes I understand that there are modifications on cars that are factory performance or oem equivalent. It all depends on how you are driving the car. At the end of the day have a dash cam. Shift gears normally don't go above xk rpm in the city especially where it echos. Don't rev your lambo in the city. Don't be on corsa/track/track mode or whatever it is that opens up the valves in your car.
Argument is that sport mode and other modes holds higher RPMs for longer periods = unnecessary noise. Sport mode suspension in some modern cars makes it stiffer.

I'm all eyes n ears tell me if i'm wrong.
Who are you, what are your intentions, and how come you deleted all of your previous posts in this thread?
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