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Originally Posted by westopher
I'll tell you who I see spend the most time on their phones at traffic lights when I'm walking dt. Boomers in expensive SUVs.
The people I see driving 40+ over the speed limit? People in their early 20s in their parents shitty 5 year old base model c class/3 series. Sometimes N on the back, more often a Z because they are so edgy.
I was pulled over going 7KM/h in rush hour traffic, at 800 fucking RPMs in a car that is quieter than any new BMW. It had nothing to do with behaviour and I can list off plenty of people in the exact same situation.
I'm likely to engage in that behaviour? My driving record would determine that is a lie.
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There's more to meets the eye for a driving record check. There can be "driving complaints" that are automatically dismissed as per call volume/priority. There may be numerous complaints/speeding/dangerous driving that are written down through people calling 911. So you MAY not know your full driving history. You will only know what you are "guilty" of. So here may be what's pushing an officer to pull you over over another person.
Because these traffic officers are allegedly enforcing modifications on vehicles I'd say any modifications made on a car whether its factory or aftermarket will be looked at more closely by specific members of the traffic unit compared to a patrol unit whom did not take the extra traffic training course that traffic units take as reported by the opcc complaint. There's more things to pick out that is wrong on a modified car vs a stock like parts that are "off road only." A couple of interesting questions to think about is if you have an alleged aftermarket exhaust is " are police required a warrant to look under a vehicle for catalytic converters?" If NO then they can just ASSUME you have one then give you a N&O for that. If YES then they can pick at coilovers/springs. How are they going to ASSUME that your springs/coils are at an appropriate spring rate roadside without a N&O ? They can look at your tint now or your tinted lights / HIDS / Reflectors/ 4th brake light. Just nitpicking everything that may be labeled as "Off road only" or is against the MVA/MVAR.
Again I think there should be a higher threshold for N&O's.
I'd request a FOI for year/make/model of cars the traffic unit specifically vs VPD has given a traffic ticket to prove your point. I'm sure that normal patrol units will balance the possible skew in the data with a bunch of older suspicious cars compared to the traffic unit, and therefore justified as not targeting.
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Originally Posted by CorneringArtist
Engaging in whataboutism using an issue that has far reaching sociological and historical issues than a traffic cop with a grudge is comparing apples to bricks.
Try again. Or are you licking boots because you don't see the demographical skew for the targeted cars? Especially since there's a perceived subjectiveness to the targeting.
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I may have been wrong on this comparison but I'll tell you why I have thought the way I have.
Do you not think there is a perceived subjectiveness for targeting aboriginals? It's written in literature and most of the time aboriginal folks commit crime more often than caucasians/non. Most criminology courses offered by university explains various theories that explain why aboriginal people are more likely to commit crime. It's literally engrained in 2/3 of officers whom take criminology in university to become an officer. Why else are they always at the bottom of the food chain? They're always being street checked. Imagine getting checked more than 2x a day to check if you have a warrant/ breaching conditions. Keep in mind that stopping a person has a HIGHER threshold to be identified than being in a car. It's interesting because if you look at the statistics on those who commit crime in the DTES it's mostly aboriginal people and those are the ones being targeted. Most policing agencies are based off of "problem based policing." Literally the problem needs to be policed more. If there is more resistance/ non-compliance there will be more enforcement.
I still don't know why you are still singling out "a" traffic cop with a grudge rather than multiple people are giving out and supporting VI's.