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Old 04-20-2020, 11:17 PM   #4322
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Originally Posted by UnknownJinX View Post
It's "wrong" but someone has to do it. Again, limited resources is a bitch. This is the basis why economy is a thing. How else do you make decisions with limited resources and saving everyone is impossible?

And how exactly is it wrong, really? Is the life of someone without a job less important? No, money isn't everything, but you do need it to sustain life. It's less apparent, but domestic violence and suicides can be more common. How do you value those lives? Or is it "out of sight, out of mind" for you?

I am not agreeing with open everything fully and just roll the dice. Rather, it's a compromise - you open back up a bit with protective measures so some people can get back to work and feed their families, etc. while we keep casualty at a reasonable level. Remember, we are talking about macro here. As long as we can show it's a net gain for the society, so be it. On a micro level, I don't wish anyone harm, but it is what it is.

Putting values on lives is not only done in this situation. Changes to traffic controls, for example, also have to put value on people's lives and time to determine if there will be a net gain or loss.
I might be a bit slow right now, but it doesn't seem like we're talking about the same thing. You're talking about it in principle, which nobody is really arguing against. But maybe go back and read what people are saying, where they said we should let old people just die so the economy doesn't suffer as much. This of course ignores that more old people dying = hospitals completely overwhelmed and there would be literally piles of dead bodies outside hospitals. And also they aren't taking into account that it's not just "old people" who are significantly effected by this, but an extraordinary number of poor people which in the US correlates to black people. In Canada it likely correlates to First Nations, and every other country has their own marginalized people that this person clearly doesn't give a fuck about.

So he's really saying we should let old people die, which is bad enough (because when is it ever good to marginalize a group based on something they can't control?), but specifically old black people in America (and in Singapore this would be old S. Asian people) all die. So he can make more money. Fuck. That.

You can dilute it into meta arguments all you want, I think it's atrocious what's being said.
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