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Originally Posted by 320icar

Your list is kind of all over the place. You seem to be cross shopping

- Korean, Japanese, German, American
- rwd, fwd, awd
- 4 door, 2 door, hatch, wagon, 2 seater
- na v6, na flat 4, turbo flat 4, straight 6, v8, twin turbo v6 etc

I think a more simple streamlined wants and needs list is required

Originally Posted by TouringTeg

Do you need a 4 door to carry clients or kids? Will you be using it for work?

Originally Posted by bcrdukes

A lot of us think we need a car that can do double/triple/quadruple duty, but you really have to think about your current situation, and how often you really need to drive your parents/friends/dog/cat, load a ceiling-high Ikea bookshelf, or move a house.

I put some thought into this, I think my list is all over the place because I have a conflict with being sensible and an (boring) adult or do I continue my car passion and goals which is to be faster at the track. Hell most of my network is because I'm a car person.

I think an ideal fun daily would be RWD, manual, and preferably can seat people in the back. This would probably be German tbh. I don't really have a preference for engine, but if it's German (probably a BMW) it would likely be some kind of six cylinder.

A sensible economical car would be FWD, manual/auto, reliable, probably a sedan and will likely be able to seat people. This is likely to be Japanese. This would probably be a 4cyl tbh.

Budget is closer to under 25K (as that's basically E46 M3 budget). I won't consider financing until after I buy a place and the mortgage is set in stone. And if I am considering financing it'd probably be for a low 30 to mid 30s car (around 10K financing).

Originally Posted by mb_

135i just based on what I skimmed through

Would have suggested FRS/BRZ/86 but seems like you're trying to convince yourself not to get one.

Yeah I think the FRS/BRZ/86 checks all the boxes in what I want for a driver's car, EXCEPT for having no rear seats (biggest concern), comfort of seats (in the BRZ), it's a little slow (would slap on a supercharger), and I guess the stigma.

It would be great to find a 4 seater (can be coupe too) that is as good as the FRS/BRZ/86. Which leads me to my next point.

I looked into getting a M/T 128i/135i and there's nothing on market right now. However, in the 20-25K range, there is the 228i and M235i.

The 228i is powered by an N20 which Road & Track says drives more fun than the M235i. They did say it's because you can just wring it out. Reminds me of the FRS/BRZ/86. A 2Addicts forum member who has Z4M, F80 M3, E46 M3, and the 228i mentioned that the ZHP handles better, but it's quicker than the ZHP.

The M235i is powered by an N55 which is tried and trued. Tuning potential is already tested with the previous 35i's. 335HP/TQ i believe, so plenty quick. It's kind of a chick car, but I definitely think it would be a fun car. Plus comes with modern features. Just not sure if it comes with a LSD. R&T and other forum members did mention that the steering is pretty numb though. But BMW does have the M235i R for a racing out of the box car. It's said around 8-10K USD to be track ready.

Plus I can run my ZE40s on the 1/2 series LOL

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

If you're gonna do the commute have you thought about a phev just so you can get a hov sticker. That is gonna save you a lot of time during rush hour.

If all goes well, my commute would be about 97KM total and about 140mins at worst normal conditions.

Originally Posted by LP700-4

My B8 S4 was a great car in your price range - pretty good handling, supercharged engine was a gem, awd could take on any snow.

Last we talked, you said no more to Audi's HAHAHA. From what I remember it was an absolute nightmare, except for coming in 1st in class for your first time at AutoX.

On another note, I found a cool GV (sedan) STI in Kelowna. It's plasma blue pearl (aka midnight pearl), my favorite color. Probably unreliable as hell, but this exact spec was one of my other dream cars when I was in high school. I think there was a guy locally with this spec.