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It boggles my mind (but isn't really a surprise) that the when Americans look at ways to change up their policing they never seem to look beyond their own borders. I agree the first thing they should be doing is defunding but I find it difficult to believe more training has no benefit when in European nations it takes several years to become an officer.

Originally Posted by Nlkko

Statistically, body cams and more training have no effect on reducing police brutality. Read this thread which includes a study: https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1...271732224?s=20

That tweet links to the other tweet which links to the study on BWC (no actual source on the training claim btw): https://www.pnas.org/content/116/21/10329.short?rss=1

Police departments are adopting body-worn cameras in hopes of improving civilian–police interactions. In a large-scale field experiment (2,224 officers of the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington, DC), we randomly assigned officers to receive cameras or not. We tracked subsequent police behavior for a minimum of 7 mo using administrative data. Our results indicate that cameras did not meaningfully affect police behavior on a range of outcomes, including complaints and use of force. We conclude that the effects of cameras are likely smaller than many have hoped.

While that is a large department, it's still one one city in one country over a very short timespan. I wouldn't write them off just because of that.

They also list this as part of their "measurement strategy"

i) Police use of force was based on officers’ self-reported use of force (in accordance with MPD policy). It included a count of all use of force incidents as well as measures of serious uses of force (as defined by MPD policy), nonserious uses of force, and use of force incidents by the race of the subject of force.

ii) Civilians can file complaints in two ways: with MPD itself or with the independent Office of Police Complaints. Our measure was the total number of complaints associated with an officer from both sources. We also disaggregated the complaints by disposition: sustained, not sustained, or unresolved due to insufficient facts.

Based on what we've been seeing out of the US lately, I'm pretty doubtful as to how much useful data you're likely to get out of those when cops seem to have no issue beating the shit out of people and numerous civilians have documented how hard it can be to actually file a complaint.