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Originally Posted by 68style
You still this he's altruistic in any way?
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Trump is a narcissist. A person would be stupid to think that he is alturistic in any way, and I have certainly never said or even remotely considered him to be alturistic in any way.
For the sake of discussion, of course it would have been great if the POTUS were an alturistic person. In practice, I'd argue that alturism is not at all an important quality for the POTUS. (Instead, some amount of compassion would be far more useful to the POTUS, but of course, compassion is something I do not believe Trump has in any sort of abundance.) As long as his policies are effective and able to benefit his citizens, that alone would make him a good president. As I have said before, Trump has done some good stuff, some bad stuff, and a heck of a lot of crazy stuff.
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Originally Posted by westopher
Anyone who thinks that measure of an economy is "good" doesn't understand how economies work. Home prices increased 20% and wages increased 4%. There was a multi trillion dollar deficit. Inequality has soared and the lower and middle classes buying power has tanked. But Bezos got more money and the stock market is up so time to celebrate!
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As a comment going back to Westopher regarding the economy, the myriad of problems that you described is not unique to the US -- it is a tricky problem that every capitalistic country faces. It is in fact a problem that is happen around much of the developed world. It just so happens that US is quite a capitalistic country, more so than it was before in the past, and that increasingly capitalistic trend has been happening at least since the Ronald Regan days. For what it is worth, it is both a US strength as well as a weakness.
As a somewhat related note, the following might also be of interest:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52907646
This isn't Trump tooting his own success, and you can argue that some of the ground work was laid down by Obama. But the numbers are what the numbers are. It would still be a fair comment to say that Trump threw all of this success down the drain with his poor handling of the pandemic, but I would consider that to fall under a different issue.