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Originally Posted by Traum
Trump is absolutely an idiot to blanket label Muslims as "bad people" and blanket ban them, whether it was for travel into the US or immigrating to the US. The so-called "bad Muslims" are the radical extremists in ISIS or anyone who shares that same ideology.
Nobody other than Trump himself would know how it is possible that he and what he does are so full of contradictions. Typically, the term that gets used to describe people like this is "someone with no moral compass". Now, I wouldn't say he is a person without any principles because it is very obvious that one of his chief guiding principles is to win at all costs.
As far as how Trump is claiming credit for the vaccine's success and how the lead researcher was someone that Trump would have shut down -- I don't think it matters to him one bit at all. His goal and his tendencies are that he needs to win, and he will try and claim credit for things that he may or may not be responsible for. In this case, because the OWS program was initiated by the US gov under the Trump administration, he will rightfully claim and take credit for it.
The Turkey example that Welfare brought up is also valid here -- the US under Trump has continued to support Turkey in both Syria and Libya. It doesn't bother Trump one bit that Turkey is a mostly Muslim country, as long as Turkey serves a useful function to the US.
In theory, the US has a fully functional system to address the issue. At the practical level, if a POTUS doesn't get sworn in by January, I would expect the US to just temporarily follow the US presidential line of succession and make the Speaker of the House of Representatives (Pelosi) the acting president. To me, that would make the most sense. It is not the end of the world. For the most part, the US will continue to function. The State governments are still completely intact. I don't expect any unresolved issues at the House of Representatives or at the Senate. Some decisions may not get made at the federal level, but various federal branches of government can continue to function on their own, at least in some capacity. It is far from being an ideal situation, but it is not the end of the world.
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You know damn well welfare's argument is obtuse at best. Trump vilified "Muslim countries", and attempted to impose such ban. He's never differentiated his ire of Muslim, so I'm going to take his words for face value.
When he said he wanted more immigrants from places like "Norway", you know damn well he wasn't talking about Turkey

Heck, one of the major reasons Britain left the EU was because Turkey was slated to join it, the last thing the Brits wanted were a bunch of Muslims coming in from Turkey
You don't think Trump is on side to that? Come on now, this is why I'm not even responding to welfare's silly argument, he knows exactly what Trump's words are about, and they're not about just Yemen and damn Syria.
I feel as though you're giving him credit for the very bare minimum, which is what I find odd.
Let me ask you something, if another president was in place, do you not think he would've enacted the exact same push for a vaccine and put forward every resource available such as every other Western democracy has?
How is the guy who claims COVID is a hoax, who fought to enact the Defense Act for PPE, who only finally begrudgingly authorized it by April, after those companies had already pivoted to produce such items?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/coro...es-so-far.html
I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems odd trying to attribute credit for something that if there was a literal monkey at the helm, would've done the exact same thing?