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Originally Posted by nsx042003
think about it this way. Cost of oil and filter is probably in the neighborhood of 50 bucks already. I'm talking about cost as a consumer, not businesses getting bulk oil (even then, it's not as cheap as you'd think).
anyway, I can guarantee you, small shop or most generic lube places don't actually stock all of the different viscosity oil for you, most of the time, they have 5-30, 0-20, as 80% of the newer cars uses these.
On the off chance you have a newer toyota 0-16, good luck getting the right oil at any places other than dealerlevel (even then, i'm skeptical if the right oil is used)
inflation, cost of labour, transportation, the real bitch behind the increase in price is mostly that
But the increase in service interval has doubled as opposed to years ago...so..it's not too bad
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Some oil places can do oil changes for just labour fee if you bring the oil. Try to see how much they cost.
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Originally Posted by Hehe
Bahaha... so I'm pointing out what Tesla is doing better and that makes me a cult follower?
The "we have always done it this way" is the most expensive business lesson any business can make.
If legacy automakers don't start to understand that their old business model no longer works and is in desperate need of an overhaul, I won't be surprised that even major brands like Benz or BMW get sold to Chinese EV brands so they can serve the only value they still have... brand recognition in the same way how Nokia/Blackberry/Motorola have gone from top 5 in phone industry to "others" in the world sales chart.
You can swap the word Tesla out and if the other brands offered these level of convenience, I'd vouch for them too. It's about a genuinely better experience.
And EV makers now on market have to be careful too. Too many of them are still thinking with the ICE mentality. NIO, for example, is looking to do battery swap station, so "you could always be with the full tank". When in reality... think in the case of your cellphone... would one still care whether a phone has swappable battery or not? So one can go instantly from 1% to 100%.
No... you just charge whenever it's needed or at night before you go to bed.
Same idea with EVs. So, stop thinking with the same habits of ICE drivers. Just force them to get used to it. When Apple went to non swappable batteries in their phones/laptops... every review I read say it's a HUGE disappointment... blah blah... let's see how many battery-swappable phones are currently on the market? Honestly, I don't think any major brands worth their name have it.
Don't just go with what the market is doing for the least resistance. Find out a better way and stick with it. The market would eventually learn to adapt if it really is better.
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Because selling a cheap Honda and paying tons for a Tesla is the solution, clearly. That's why I call you a Tesla cult... Ahem, owner.
The reason for non-swappable batteries is simple: planned obsolescence. Nothing more to that. Of course, your average person will likely switch phones for other reasons, but that's not exactly something to defend. Keep in mind that, they not only make the battery sealed, but also very difficult to swap out.
I am gonna be honest, if I ever buy an EV, Tesla will be at the bottom of my list, not just because of the potato QC, but also the owners, which is ironic as I find forums usually make my car ownership experience more pleasant.
Get your own thread.