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Hehe · 01-08-2021, 05:58 PM

I have always promoted one thing and one thing only... be fucking self-responsible so in doing so, you make the society greater because the society doesn't need to take care of you and when possible, contribute back.

For jmac to be saying that we shouldn't fund incentives for "rich" people to get their luxury EV, let me remind you that only cars UP to 55000 with a base model of 45000 qualifies for the rebate.

And what's the point of such $$$? It's called "incentive"... to incentivize people to alter their consumption so we get less pollution emitting vehicles on road.

Sure, people who can pay 55000 for their car might be able to do without that incentive. But the whole idea is to change their selections. What other cars are in this category? Pacifica PHEV, Tesla Model 3 and apparently Y now, Prius PHEV... etc.

In the case of Pacifica, as it's a more clear example, the PHEV is the most expensive trim. Would a family looking for a minivan spent the extra dough to be greener? Sure, they might be able to afford it without incentives, but it's there so people change their mind. Instead of going a pure ICE trim, spend the extra money and go for PHEV.

Yes, the reduction might be small. But the idea is that we get a few thousands of normal emission cars OUT of the road and put low/non-emission ones in place every year. That in 10 years would make up tens of thousands of vehicles. And when people change their vehicle, they are more likely to stay green (as survey has shown only about 1% of people who gone EV is willing to go back to ICE), but when those vehicles get resold, they stay green and influence more people.

It's almost infuriating to hear that the few things that our gov't is actually doing right get talked down because they make little difference?

So, it's better for these "riches" to go buy a 6.3ltr V8 powered AMGs instead?

And when I pointed that out... one could just say... ok... let's agree to disagree, which I'd take... since we can't always agree on things and policies. But no... these hypocrites actually try to make sense of how going green is pointless, again, because it's too little.

It's like people donating $2 dollars for charity and get the money thrown back on the face saying "no, $2 won't do shit for the cause".

01-08-2021, 05:58 PM	#64
Hehe OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: YVR/TPE Posts: 5,223 Thanked 3,285 Times in 1,456 Posts Failed 685 Times in 223 Posts	I have always promoted one thing and one thing only... be fucking self-responsible so in doing so, you make the society greater because the society doesn't need to take care of you and when possible, contribute back. For jmac to be saying that we shouldn't fund incentives for "rich" people to get their luxury EV, let me remind you that only cars UP to 55000 with a base model of 45000 qualifies for the rebate. And what's the point of such $$$? It's called "incentive"... to incentivize people to alter their consumption so we get less pollution emitting vehicles on road. Sure, people who can pay 55000 for their car might be able to do without that incentive. But the whole idea is to change their selections. What other cars are in this category? Pacifica PHEV, Tesla Model 3 and apparently Y now, Prius PHEV... etc. In the case of Pacifica, as it's a more clear example, the PHEV is the most expensive trim. Would a family looking for a minivan spent the extra dough to be greener? Sure, they might be able to afford it without incentives, but it's there so people change their mind. Instead of going a pure ICE trim, spend the extra money and go for PHEV. Yes, the reduction might be small. But the idea is that we get a few thousands of normal emission cars OUT of the road and put low/non-emission ones in place every year. That in 10 years would make up tens of thousands of vehicles. And when people change their vehicle, they are more likely to stay green (as survey has shown only about 1% of people who gone EV is willing to go back to ICE), but when those vehicles get resold, they stay green and influence more people. It's almost infuriating to hear that the few things that our gov't is actually doing right get talked down because they make little difference? So, it's better for these "riches" to go buy a 6.3ltr V8 powered AMGs instead? And when I pointed that out... one could just say... ok... let's agree to disagree, which I'd take... since we can't always agree on things and policies. But no... these hypocrites actually try to make sense of how going green is pointless, again, because it's too little. It's like people donating $2 dollars for charity and get the money thrown back on the face saying "no, $2 won't do shit for the cause". __________________ Nothing for now