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Originally Posted by 68style
This is true, can't be argued with. Outside of this new universe where there's no dilithium, there's no commerce of any sort and everyone has what they need to survive... it's definitely a utopia/ultimate form of UBI.
There's obvious modernism on the show, like so many powerful female characters, a black female lead, an asian female lead who can kick anyone' ass, a chubby woman who's cool and respected... they're covering ALL the bases (although, anyone who has watched it will realize after the first part of the first season they all ultimately go back to answering to white men for awhile hahaha) and we've been over the same sex couple thing in here... it's all fine, I didn't feel it was in your face at all and you realize it when you're watching but they leave it up to you to realize it. You'd have to be thinking pretty hard and conservatively to get upset about any of that stuff I think?
The only thing I can think of, and I don't know if it's the reason, but I think the episode that probably got on people's nerves a bit for overdoing it was in Episode... 4?... in the spore drive room... cuz I think it was painfully obvious to anyone after like 3 seconds of watching that both Adira's character and their partner are androgynous/gender neutral, but they went ahead anyway with a separate scene with Stamets where he refers to Adira as a girl and Adira stops him and corrects him about being non-binary/preferring they pronouns and he gazes at them lovingly and apologizes.
I mean... yay, more diverse characters can't really go wrong imho. By no means do I think the show is garbage, I love the show, but I personally wish they'd have given the audience a little bit of credit on that one and didn't take you 'out of the show' for a lesson -- could have just left them as they're presented and used pronouns and I think everyone would just get it.
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It was an awkward scene for sure, but I'll just say if you've ever been in a situation where for the first time you misgender someone who is non binary, it can be REALLY awkward for you and them. I think the show is kind of "teaching" that it doesn't have to be awkward/painful/cringey, if you simply just respect everyone equally. Apologize, try to get it right (it might be hard if they've been identifying as a different gender for a long time), and move on with life. Stamets showed one way to handle it.. That's why people like him are respected, and people like Jordan Peterson and his followers aren't.
It's definitely totally a "2020's thing" and while some people and bigots might get all mad and say it's "in my face", I think it's just another step in the Star Trekdom of Star Trek. Pushing these kind of boundaries, getting us to think of this kind of thing, is what they've been doing for longer than most of us have been alive.
I thought it was brilliant using a Trill for that kind of scene. After all, Trills are non binary (at least the symbiont). Think about how even in "left wing garbage" Star Trek, Jadzia Dax's gender was basically a punchline for all the men who would be attracted to her, only to find out that "ewwwwwwww
she used to be a
he???"
Maybe these "leftwing garbage" people were expecting more of that, with no progress in our thinking after 30 years? Think about that. THIRTY YEARS! Time to grow up!