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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
The Trump vs China narrative is a big issue throughout China and Asia as well (Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc). As we can see with Traum, he has successfully built this narrative that he's tough on them, and is the best candidate to "keep them in check". When in reality, everything he's done has been self-serving, only done to perpetuate that narrative. Believing Trump is "the solution for China" is the same as believing he "actually won the election by a lot"
Mike is right that all the sanctions with regards to 5G would have been done by any administration, and it's being done by most of the rest of the world too. Including every Trump-hating country in the world 
So now we have groups of pro Trump people in Taiwan, HK, and probably underground in China. Little mini-MAGAs that do nothing but serve to give him strength. This is another reason why an impeachment is so important. I was surprised to see that MeWe.com, which is promoted as an alternative to Facebook but is really where the former MAGAs are going after the Parler shutdown, is becoming very popular in HK. All these pro-democracy people are supporting a guy who is very much anti-democracy. I get it in a "enemy of my enemy is my friend" but Trump is nobody's friend but his own.
Not to mention Falun Gong and their Epoch Times media has basically become a MAGA propaganda publisher... Trump has made fools of so many people, and has somehow garnered support from everyone from white supremacists to weird but peaceful religions |
For someone who is currently living in Hong Kong, I really find it surprising that you can be thinking this way. It isn't "a narrative that I built" that Trump is tough on China. It is a common consensus among the anti-Communist China crowd that Trump has been quite effective in clamping down on China, and this consensus includes insights from some of Hong Kong / Taiwan's smartest critics and commentators.
If you think Biden would have enacted those 5G sactions like Trump has, think again. During his campaign, Biden tried to say that he would remove Trump’s tariffs on Chinese products if elected president. (His staff later walked back on the statement.) Biden also said he would work with western democracies to broadly pressure China into abiding by international rules and protocols. As I've pointed out before, that approach does not work (on China). The 5G blockages are also not something that any administration would have done as you so claim. Look back at what I have mentioned above -- I'd say the the other countries are only blocking Huawei and its 5G because they have seen Trump leading the charge, so joining the ban after the US has done it first becomes far less risky for themselves. When you look at the timeline of when the bans came into place, you will see that it started with the US on May 1, 2019. Britain and Frace, for example, followed a year later.
As the largest economy in the world as well as China's biggest trading partner, the US already posses more than enough strength and firepower to force China into cooperating. If the RoW wants to join in on the effort, it'll make the job faster and easier. If there is too much bickering (because each country's national interest will be different), then the US can go at it alone, and it'll be somewhat slower. There is no need to wait.