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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
All I want is some official correlation of a death being caused by any vaccine. Not someone who died after a vaccine, but a known case of "this person died because of the vaccine and they would have lived if they had not taken it".
I'm not saying it's impossible or I won't believe you if you show me... I just want to see it. Because AFAIK (and I don't know everything) it hasn't happened yet.
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There's plenty to be mad about with the HK govt, to say the least. But when it comes to covid, they are handling it strictly and transparently, and have been effective at keeping the damage very low. 0 local cases today btw.
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You are quite correct that officially, no death has been directly tied to any of the known COVID vaccines at this point. The only way you're gonna get something like that is if the person has an anaphylactic reaction to the vaccine, but all vaccination sites would already have countermeasures ready to treat that.
There have been 19 deaths in Hong Kong where the deceased person has recently been vaccinated for COVID. 17 of those had been vaccinated with China's Sinovac vaccine. As you said, all of them of at least some sort of chronic illness, usually multiple issues. IIRC, most of them are elderly people in the 60+ range. Again, I am going to point out that Sinovac's official recommendation is to only use the vaccine on those who are 18 - 59.
Obviously you refuse to acknowledge that the Sinovac vaccine can lead to death. You also think Hong Kong's handling of COVID has been strict and transparent, and I will strongly disagree on both accounts. Sinovac vaccines should not have been used on the elderly at all, and there have been 17 deaths to show that the vaccine is not safe for those elderly people with chronic illnesses. It cannot be proven that the vaccine is directly responsible for these 17 people's death, but what we do know is, the vaccine will trigger an immune response in every patient who was vaccinated. Is it too far fetched to logically speculate that the vaccine-induced immune response is too much for the bodies of people with chronic illnesses to handle?
To me, what you are saying sounds a lot like a person has been stabbed in his aorta by a robber, and the doctor insists that the person died of blood loss instead of dying from the stabbing. Technically the doctor is right.
Lastly, I will say again that Hong Kong's low COVID numbers are there in spite of the gov's inaptitude, not because of its handling of the virus. The credit belongs to discipine of the general public.