[inv4zn]

Originally Posted by JD¹³

Ah yes, ignore the conversation and go to name calling when presented with facts you can't argue. I'm vaccinated, and you don't understand how to interpret the stats that were the basis of your argument Slow clap.

K well maybe put the effort into proper formatting next time so the conversation can actually go on.

No I'm talking about the data and contact tracing since March 2020 showing that all the places people are being restricted from are not high sources of transmission and that the Medical Officers of this province (and others) are ignoring that and making a Passport policy to coerce people to get vaccinated or not be allowed to participate in society. When it has no public health benefit but is being sold as such the passport is fundamentally wrong. There's no argument against that when the CMO's go against the scientific data and lie to the public. Again, go back a few pages and watch the VCH CMO say this in a recorded internal video meeting.

Oh, this is about vaccine passports now? I thought your whole spiel was mRNA vaccines? But ok, let's pretend that's not gaslighting. Indulge me and show me that link with the VCH CMO, I must have missed it. Google didn't turn up anything either.

60 seconds on Google would answer this for you from unlimited sources. Also you're misinterpreting that 790k number, look at the total number of tests (over 4 million) and know that people are being tested for all numbers of reasons and multiple times (work, travel, et al). Anyone who had a cold, flu, or general illness may have gotten a test and still only 198k have popped positive for COVID.

Spend that 60 seconds and find me a source that says "vast majority", or better yet, with a number. I'm not saying asymptomatic carriers don't exist, but it's not the vast majority. Let's look a little deeper into what you said: "People are being tested for all numbers of reasons", which is likely very true. You can pick a number, because any number you pick will just mean the % of positive cases from people that got tested with symptoms will go up in proportion. 1 million of the 4 million tests were due to other requirements? Ok, 198K positive out of 3 million instead. Now who's misinterpreting what? It's also probably safe to assume # of tests doesn't equal # of people, since one person can get tested multiple times. But since it's unlikely one person will count for multiple confirmed cases, the value goes up once again! Also..."only 198K have popped positive"...as if that's somehow a small number. That's a little more than the entire population of Coquitlam.

Thousands and thousands of serious side-effects reported worldwide isn't substantial harm? A hesitant person is deciding between running the gauntlet of even getting COVID and actually getting sick, or definitively running the gauntlet by injecting the vaccine. And people are for forcing option B on them through legislation.

Ok...but what about the thousands and thousands and tens and hundreds of thousands of millions of people who don't have serious side effects, and also are much better protected against covid? 4,927 adverse effects reported in Canada total vs. 2329 CURRENTLY in the hospital with 28644 cumulative deaths. Source is here: https://covid19tracker.ca/

Dumb final comment.

Why? Your entire thing was about mRNA vaccines, until it was suddenly about vaccine passports. How will you deflect this time?